fishforfun

And another 4-6 weeks off for IOE or has that changed?

smoothatFL410

3 months. Wow. Is the ground school that long or is it a sit and wait after ground school to start and get through the sim?

Hoping to be hired and start class in May. Being in my 40's, any chance I could get the bus based in LA?

PilotJim

Does Allegiant offer any kind of parking reimbursement or uniform allowance currently? Since there is no contract, it's really hard to tell what I might be getting myself into exactly.

labbats

Uniform allowance annually.

Parking in domicile paid. Commuter parking unpaid.

Read up on the contract as much as you can. Those are much more minor items than the $80/day training pay or $20/hr deadhead pay or ... or ... or.

Machaca

That's 20 dollar DH pay ONLY if you credit more than 70 hours pay for that month, else all that time you spend working for Uncle Maury is lumped into your min guarantee.

Also, if you get the -80, be ready for craptastic computer based training that will give you only the barest of info on the actual airplane. Multiple oral failures because the company lied about the questions being asked only from ADAPT.

iFlyHi

While I agree the ADAPT for the -80 is not the best thing that ever existed... I had pretty good oral prep. As long as you're responsible and read the books, know your limitations and make a conscious effort to understand the system thoroughly there should be no issue. That goes for any oral at any company. If anyone is expecting to be spoon fed answers to everything it's probably the wrong industry to be in. Flat out lies about oral questions in adapt was far from what I experienced. In fact I'm not even sure anyone mentioned the oral questions in adapt.

smoothatFL410

Someone have a link or a PDF for the contract? What is this about $80/day training pay? Taking 3 months or more to complete checkrides plus a month off before IOE, what's that like?

N1sync

Can anyone confirm the "50 more new hires" comment? It's a little contradictory to what I've heard and what they seem to be doing. If true I'd say perhaps they're getting ready to transition a whole lot of existing pilots and park -80's more rapidly than expected. Can anyone recall what has been said at the job fairs as far as hiring numbers?

fishforfun

Yeah, this was definitely not a spoon feed type of place. The bus is just as bad. The instructor was not very knowledgeable and would argue if you pointed out his mistake. Then a large portion of the oral was spent on things not covered in class but thankfully we had some gouge from previous guys. The completely inconsistent and contradictory manuals make it a real fun experience also.

The training is a small preview of the rest of the operation. Run as lean as possible then go just below that. There will be no breaks from day 1 to completing systems. That's when the fun begins of daily schedule changes happen for SITS and sims. Showing up to events with no instructors or double booking students. And of course it's a domino effect and once you miss a scheduled event due to one of these wonderful reasons you're out of the loop and sent to the back of the line and off for a week. Nothing like having 7 days off between second to last and last sim or last sim and type ride. Seriously. This is what happens. It was getting better when our class was finishing up but doesn't sound like much has changed.

It only gets slightly better on the line if everything goes perfectly. Once you start to fall behind on the time line in the morning you will likely be the last to push because the contract ground crew only cares about on time performance and they only have enough people to work one or two aircraft. So if you are delayed to do whatever, what could possibly only be a 5 minute delay turns into 30 minutes while you watch everyone else push. Now your event you were planning on going to that afternoon/evening (because you're home everynight (rolling eyes emoji)) is in jeopardy because you were also late leaving your outstation because when you got there 30 minutes late the one gate in BLV or HTS was taken so now you have to wait for a gate. So you get home 1-1.5 hours late, missed your event but hey, I'm home tonight. Sorry, got a bit off track but that is just a taste of life here. And that's on our reliable fleet. Rant over.

fishforfun

This was from one of the management nights out at the bases yesterday. Came from the COO.