Allegiant Air
12-20-2015, 01:42 AM
#992
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
Everyone's experience at Allegiant varies. I can tell you, in my experience, I have had dispatchers argue with me about adding fuel. I've also had dispatchers yell at me for not flying to an airport where the landing distance exceeded the length of the runway, due to snow and ice. I've had them route me right down the middle of hurricanes and tropical storms.
I've had maintenance control tell me to pull the calls circuit breaker on an MD-80 to make an erroneous takeoff config go away. I've also had them try to talk me in to flying a plane back to base because the contract mechanic was several hours away. If you put your foot down and say no, they will finally stop trying to talk you in to doing things.
Just on a side note, my personal record for MEL's on one plane was 26, and the most write ups I ever did on one plane was 16, but that one just came out of a heavy check. Of course the local mechanics said my write ups were in addition to the 50 or 60 other things they already knew about that needed to be fixed. No one told us about those.
But remember, your experience may be different, and your mileage may vary.
I've had maintenance control tell me to pull the calls circuit breaker on an MD-80 to make an erroneous takeoff config go away. I've also had them try to talk me in to flying a plane back to base because the contract mechanic was several hours away. If you put your foot down and say no, they will finally stop trying to talk you in to doing things.
Just on a side note, my personal record for MEL's on one plane was 26, and the most write ups I ever did on one plane was 16, but that one just came out of a heavy check. Of course the local mechanics said my write ups were in addition to the 50 or 60 other things they already knew about that needed to be fixed. No one told us about those.
But remember, your experience may be different, and your mileage may vary.
12-20-2015, 09:57 AM
#995
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: duck & cover
Posts: 142
Be that as it may, I still feel that it is a good place to get 121 experience and if problems persist move on. I don't need to "see" that happening for me to believe you, Allegiant is an ultra-low-cost-carrier man and you have to see it for what it is, not for what you would like it to be.
Case and point, I don't want to talk politics but our government has a lot of corrupt people in it and as a consequence the country is in the position that it is now, but you don't see many people emigrating because of this, on the contrary you see thousands of people migrating to the U.S. because in comparison it still is a great place to live.
Same with Allegiant, if what you are claiming is true, believe me when I tell you that they are not the only ones doing it and although I do not condone this kind of behavior it is just part of corporate America. I don't know if you work there or not, but if you do and you are not in agreement with how they are doing things then why stay?
Im not defending Allegiant, but every company has its problems man. They are a relatively young airline and as a result there are some "growing pains" that we all have to be able to accept to work there, and if you are not willing... then move on!!
Case and point, I don't want to talk politics but our government has a lot of corrupt people in it and as a consequence the country is in the position that it is now, but you don't see many people emigrating because of this, on the contrary you see thousands of people migrating to the U.S. because in comparison it still is a great place to live.
Same with Allegiant, if what you are claiming is true, believe me when I tell you that they are not the only ones doing it and although I do not condone this kind of behavior it is just part of corporate America. I don't know if you work there or not, but if you do and you are not in agreement with how they are doing things then why stay?
Im not defending Allegiant, but every company has its problems man. They are a relatively young airline and as a result there are some "growing pains" that we all have to be able to accept to work there, and if you are not willing... then move on!!
12-20-2015, 11:59 AM
#997
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: on the bench
Posts: 157
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12-21-2015, 04:33 AM
#998
Smooth Operator
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Airbus F.O
Posts: 101
Be that as it may, I still feel that it is a good place to get 121 experience and if problems persist move on. I don't need to "see" that happening for me to believe you, Allegiant is an ultra-low-cost-carrier man and you have to see it for what it is, not for what you would like it to be.
Case and point, I don't want to talk politics but our government has a lot of corrupt people in it and as a consequence the country is in the position that it is now, but you don't see many people emigrating because of this, on the contrary you see thousands of people migrating to the U.S. because in comparison it still is a great place to live.
Same with Allegiant, if what you are claiming is true, believe me when I tell you that they are not the only ones doing it and although I do not condone this kind of behavior it is just part of corporate America. I don't know if you work there or not, but if you do and you are not in agreement with how they are doing things then why stay?
Im not defending Allegiant, but every company has its problems man. They are a relatively young airline and as a result there are some "growing pains" that we all have to be able to accept to work there, and if you are not willing... then move on!!
Case and point, I don't want to talk politics but our government has a lot of corrupt people in it and as a consequence the country is in the position that it is now, but you don't see many people emigrating because of this, on the contrary you see thousands of people migrating to the U.S. because in comparison it still is a great place to live.
Same with Allegiant, if what you are claiming is true, believe me when I tell you that they are not the only ones doing it and although I do not condone this kind of behavior it is just part of corporate America. I don't know if you work there or not, but if you do and you are not in agreement with how they are doing things then why stay?
Im not defending Allegiant, but every company has its problems man. They are a relatively young airline and as a result there are some "growing pains" that we all have to be able to accept to work there, and if you are not willing... then move on!!
Good post
12-21-2015, 05:21 AM
#999
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 1
I have been with Allegiant for almost 9 years and have to say that I have never been yelled at from a dispatcher or MX. I have never flown an aircraft I thought to be unsafe, I have never been pressured to fly broken aircraft or not to record an issue in the MX logbook. The most MELs I have ever seen was 6. The negative Allegiant people who say we fire Captains for an emergency evacs are just wrong. I have had to evac 155 pax plus crew on a runway at Allegiant. I was not fired or disciplined for my actions because my First Officer and I used good judgement in our emergency. Captains must evaluate the need to get out of an aircraft in a hurry, is there a danger to staying in a cabin with no fire and no smoke? Smoke coming from a breather on a engine is not a danger to pax inside an aircraft. The Captain that was fired had used poor judgement in his evac order in my opinion. He claims that it was necessary to evac asap but he lands and then exits the runway, why would he take the time to do this? He then waits 7-8 mins on a taxiway without actually seeing smoke in the cabin as CFR inspects the aircraft for signs of fire or smoke. Yes the JT8D will smoke from the breather this is normal. Ever seen the CFM56 after shutdown? It smokes like crazy but I am not throwing people down the slides for this. Why would he wait 7-8 mins to evac the plane if it was necessary to get out right away? So he thought there was a need to get out quickly because he thought there might be a smoke issue at the rear of the aircraft, so he orders an evac but does not specify which exits to avoid. You don't send pax towards an exit if you believe there was a safety issue. To top it off this "great Captain" with 100 pic in the 80 goes to Las Vegas with an attitude that he was right no matter what. Guess what he never ran the emergency evac checklist such as shuting down all engines, APU and setting flaps to 28 degrees. He got fired this is correct, I am glad this weak Captain is gone. The issue I see with Allegiant is the quick upgrade to Captain for some with little to no no 121 PIC time.
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