Allegiant vs Republic
08-23-2014, 07:07 AM
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I don't work for Allegiant, but this decision should really be a no brainer. Do you really want to remain associated with the filthy swine? The Toonsters are still suing F9 trying to steal jobs even though they are in no way, shape or form connected anymore. Eventually, the Toonsters and republic pukes will be handed another humiliating and crushing defeat in the courtroom. Do you really want to be around for whatever temper tantrum will occur at that time? It's really best to get the hell out if you can or risk becoming another bitter lifer with no hope of a better future.
08-23-2014, 07:43 AM
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Pretty much the same situation at AAY however. Teamsters are pretty much worthless at either airline. AAY is more likely to strike due to their business model not really affecting national economy or the government. These decisions are NEVER no brainers.
08-23-2014, 07:43 AM
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08-23-2014, 07:57 AM
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Calling the Teamsters "worthless" at Allegiant is a bit premature. They have provided us with the tools we've needed, initiated and WON an injunction against this management team's travesties, and have charged us ZERO dues for doing so. I don't know what happened with Republic since I've been out of the regional game for almost a decade, but remember that the union is comprised of YOUR pilots. I highly doubt that any injustice that you endured was the sole doing of IBT national. IBT isn't perfect but it's light years ahead of what we had before, which was basically a bunch of volunteers that management chose to either acknowledge or ignore depending upon what mood they were in.
08-23-2014, 08:13 AM
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Perhaps "worthless" isn't the best term. IBT 357 has helped me out quite a bit. I am just frustrated at having a 2003 contract as the current CBA. It could still be worse. Based on what I read, AAY looks worse. I'm glad 1224 is working hard to make life at AAY better. But how can someone make a decision to jump from an unstable ship to one with a huge crack in it?
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08-23-2014, 08:30 AM
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Perhaps "worthless" isn't the best term. IBT 357 has helped me out quite a bit. I am just frustrated at having a 2003 contract as the current CBA. It could still be worse. Based on what I read, AAY looks worse. I'm glad 1224 is working hard to make life at AAY better. But how can someone make a decision to jump from an unstable ship to one with a huge crack in it?
08-23-2014, 08:39 AM
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This does seem to be the mantra, take a good QOL with low pay and soon as they brought in the union, make the QOL as bad as possible to match the pay so that way there is lots of room to negotiate from. Just to put it back to pre-union would be considered a win.
08-23-2014, 09:21 AM
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Soo... I'm currently a 4yr FO with Republic and have a class date with Allegiant. I'm trying to make an informed decision to take the class date.
My situation...
Republic
* Currently live at home in base
* Topped out pay at $36/hr @ 75 guarantee + perdiem
* Upgrade of another 2-3 years
My situation...
Republic
* Currently live at home in base
* Topped out pay at $36/hr @ 75 guarantee + perdiem
* Upgrade of another 2-3 years
Wow! You may qualify for food stamps!
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