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Old 10-20-2014, 06:49 AM
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I have a block of 4 and a block of 3 days off next month. I had to trade a day to get the block of 3 off. Everything else is single days off. I've seen another captain's schedule that also has a block of 4 and a block of 3 off. I've seen another schedule that has the first 7 days off, then the rest of the month is single days off.
There is available open time, and while I've been able to trade a bit to make my schedule more to my liking, I've also been shot down for trades because they've designated certain days "100% Fly Days" and they're not allowed to permit crewmembers to trade out of, PTO or drop those days.
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:51 PM
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This is accurate. They also just canceled an upgrade class all the while using "sub-services" to make up difference.

Does that mean Sun Country?
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:21 PM
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Sun Country, Vision, Falcon Air, and anyone else they can find.
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cardboardbox
I have a block of 4 and a block of 3 days off next month. I had to trade a day to get the block of 3 off. Everything else is single days off. I've seen another captain's schedule that also has a block of 4 and a block of 3 off. I've seen another schedule that has the first 7 days off, then the rest of the month is single days off.
There is available open time, and while I've been able to trade a bit to make my schedule more to my liking, I've also been shot down for trades because they've designated certain days "100% Fly Days" and they're not allowed to permit crewmembers to trade out of, PTO or drop those days.
I also have 2 weeks of 5 days off in a row. In base, we network and will trip trade with each other to help out. Living in and senior in base, I'll even take a RSV day, if I can help them out; never been called and the one I helped got to do what they wanted. Still, there's improvements to schedules, TDY, open time, etc..
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:01 PM
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It would seem to me it would be cheaper to come to some sort of agreement with the pilot group. Training costs for new hires is not cheap. A constant turnover of pilots and flight cancellations has to cost more than paying an industry standard wage.
It’s not about the money. The CEO has an ultra strong hatred for anything union. He’s already made his millions, if he could, he would trash the company tomorrow just to spite the fact we dared his authority.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
It would seem to me it would be cheaper to come to some sort of agreement with the pilot group. Training costs for new hires is not cheap. A constant turnover of pilots and flight cancellations has to cost more than paying an industry standard wage.

Exactly how many days off a month do you guys get anyway? Do they have you flying maximum hours year round? I'm also curious how many legs you guys do in a day?
Well see, with your reasoning about outsourcing, you don't have the "big picture." ...cough, cough(mgt response) As for your other questions(me personally)
-11-19 days off. 17 for November, 75 hours
-with the increase in hiring, I doubt max hours except for maybe junior CAs.. Just a guess
-2 legs, probably 10% = 4 legs but I don't bid them; work too hard running the QRH for 4 legs.. just kidding, sometimes.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I appreciate your perspective however I can't imagine investors letting that happen. Why would you kill a cash cow just to prove a point? I doubt the CEO has the power to do such a thing.
You’re correct. That’s the only reason why he hasn’t. And, in the end that will be why we procure a contract.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:25 PM
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You’re correct. That’s the only reason why he hasn’t. And, in the end that will be why we procure a contract.
^^^^^^^^ +1
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot
Teamwork makes the dream work!
Thinking weakens the team.

Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
A constant turnover of pilots and flight cancellations has to cost more than paying an industry standard wage.
Unless your goal is to drive DOWN the "industry standard."

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...he would trash the company tomorrow just to spite the fact we dared his authority.
Because he can just move on to the next airline.

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I appreciate your perspective however I can't imagine investors letting that happen. Why would you kill a cash cow just to prove a point? I doubt the CEO has the power to do such a thing.
You think he's doing any of this WITHOUT the approval of the Board and the investors? They'll rake the profits until the the last day. And when Allegiant has been cast on the ash heap of airline history, they'll move on to the next.
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I am still curious. Exactly how many days off a month do you guys get anyway? Do they have you flying maximum hours year round and how many legs do you guys do in a day?
Minimum days off on reserve is 10, reducible to 8. Minimum days off not on reserve is 11. Hours vary by month, base, and equipment. Typically, the hours range from 70-105, depending on staffing and the month.

In my base, the average hours for captains for November is 92, and for first officers is 100. I would expect December to be higher than that.
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