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Old 09-26-2014, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pipercub
even if you have personal credible evidence of that statement that is a bold statement on a public forum
It is because this is the internet and he is so full of it even he knows it.
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Old 09-26-2014, 11:11 PM
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even if you have personal credible evidence of that statement that is a bold statement on a public forum
Well, at least I've got you thinking.

It may be a bold statement, but it is the truth.
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Old 09-27-2014, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
When you decide to move on, imagine how a pink will look on your PRIA. Allegiant skimps on training like everything else and the Feds are growing tired of it. Just this week, a new hire FO got pinked by a Fed on an oral.
Wait....the Feds are sick of the failure rate, but a Fed pinked a guy in an oral? Hang on, who are the bad guys? (Maybe my brain is not engaged.)
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:43 AM
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Wait....the Feds are sick of the failure rate, but a Fed pinked a guy in an oral? Hang on, who are the bad guys? (Maybe my brain is not engaged.)
The Feds aren't sick of failure rates, they're sick of Allegiant cutting corners on training. They won't hesitate to pink someone if they're deficient due to training department shortcomings. The training department has been under the magnifying glass since the Feds shut it down last year. Ask anyone going through training, it's a mess.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
The Feds aren't sick of failure rates, they're sick of Allegiant cutting corners on training. They won't hesitate to pink someone if they're deficient due to training department shortcomings. The training department has been under the magnifying glass since the Feds shut it down last year. Ask anyone going through training, it's a mess.
Some maintaining of a little perspective might be nice, once in a while. This individual's bust had very little to do with the training department. As a matter of fact, the May class got managed to get through with no issues in the oral, most of whom exceeded expectations...and some of whom are still available helping the new class. Since everyone is throwing about speculation on this instance, try this one on for size...the individual showed up with a type already, didn't put in the effort required and was subsequently smacked about. One of the newest guys in the training department would be loathe to send forward a new hire ill equipped for that oral, particularly since he knew the evaluator and knew what was required.
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Old 09-27-2014, 08:12 AM
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I agree. Every new hire class at every airline has people with varying abilities and effort. Some don't pass and that may mean the system is working.

I think this situation is so extreme to so many of us here because I can think of maybe two people in the hundreds of us leading up to 2014 who have ever busted an oral... and that wasn't because we were all sharp. It had much more to do with pass them fast because we have a slot burning up time with their name on it.
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Thunderpig
Some maintaining of a little perspective might be nice, once in a while. This individual's bust had very little to do with the training department. As a matter of fact, the May class got managed to get through with no issues in the oral, most of whom exceeded expectations...and some of whom are still available helping the new class. Since everyone is throwing about speculation on this instance, try this one on for size...the individual showed up with a type already, didn't put in the effort required and was subsequently smacked about. One of the newest guys in the training department would be loathe to send forward a new hire ill equipped for that oral, particularly since he knew the evaluator and knew what was required.
The version I got involved a dispute and the guy was actually right. He admitted to missing some things (who doesn't) but this was an ORAL. I guess we will never know because the oral was given at the FSDO (??) with 2 feds and no Allegiant training guys (***??) I don't know that this has EVER happened here. The guy was then given an oral by 2 management training guys and passed with flying colors. Fails the sniff test.

Perspective? 8 months to get people through (perfect storm?) due to years of relying on Pan Am (1 sim now), FAA mandated shut down, senior check airmen quitting, constant turnover of training staff, (including the director), new check airmen just upgrading to captain. Nothing to see here folks,...
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:07 PM
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So, the base bid closed 9am Friday Vegas time....thought the results would be posted by now. Guess the 'manual process' will take some time, and about what, 3 iterations to get right?
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by block30
Wait....the Feds are sick of the failure rate, but a Fed pinked a guy in an oral? Hang on, who are the bad guys? (Maybe my brain is not engaged.)
It's an MD-80...... When in doubt about a power source question, always answer DC Emergency. You'll be right 90% of the time.
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Old 09-28-2014, 07:02 AM
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Our work rules state that if you're on reserve and your the first AM person before a day off, that you are automatically released if you haven't been called 8 hours after your window opens.

My question is how can I see if I'm the earliest person for the day?
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