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Old 07-15-2013, 07:51 PM
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Anyone get the call to interview this or next week? Good Luck to all.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:31 AM
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Anyone get the call to interview this or next week? Good Luck to all.
They're making calls already? Window was still open last night.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:04 AM
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That's correct calls are being made.
Can Any Allegiant guys weigh in on, 15% to 20 % of the fleet being broken at anytime? Not getting paid on time? Scheduling leaving you away from base for days at a time because they expect you to jumpseat back so they don't have to buy a ticket, and they keep you in the airport all day not knowing if your really going to leave so they do not have to provide you a hotel?
The word on the street from Allegiant pilots is not great, and things are going down hill fast unless your management. As far as the union goes, the pilot group offers things and the counter offer is NO from the company?
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup9
That's correct calls are being made.
Can Any Allegiant guys weigh in on, 15% to 20 % of the fleet being broken at anytime?
Dunno.....planes break...duh.
Not getting paid on time?
Seriously do you beleve that?
Scheduling leaving you away from base for days at a time because they expect you to jumpseat back so they don't have to buy a ticket,
Not true. Allegiant always buys tickets for company transport.
and they keep you in the airport all day not knowing if your really going to leave so they do not have to provide you a hotel?
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The word on the street from Allegiant pilots is not great, and things are going down hill fast unless your management.
You must be talking to the 1%'ers who do nothing but complain.
As far as the union goes, the pilot group offers things and the counter offer is NO from the company?
Show me a union negotiation where a company rolls over and gives the pilots or any group what they want?
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup9
That's correct calls are being made.
Can Any Allegiant guys weigh in on, 15% to 20 % of the fleet being broken at anytime? Not getting paid on time? Scheduling leaving you away from base for days at a time because they expect you to jumpseat back so they don't have to buy a ticket, and they keep you in the airport all day not knowing if your really going to leave so they do not have to provide you a hotel?
The word on the street from Allegiant pilots is not great, and things are going down hill fast unless your management. As far as the union goes, the pilot group offers things and the counter offer is NO from the company?
15-20 sounds way high but these are 20+ year-old old-school 1960's design airplanes that need lot's of babying.

In 3+ years yesterday was the first time pay was late, by one day.

If you're on reserve you could get sent to another base for several days. You'll get a ticket back at the end of your stint; the jumpseat rumor is b.s.

The work rules stipulate after 4 hours waiting at the airport you get a hotel.

Growth is slow and upgrade times are becoming much longer. And pay now lags industry standard by quite a bit. The contract is going take a long time to work out.

Take to heart what has been written: don't apply unless you really want to live in Florida, maybe for several years.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup9
That's correct calls are being made.
Can Any Allegiant guys weigh in on, 15% to 20 % of the fleet being broken at anytime? Not getting paid on time? Scheduling leaving you away from base for days at a time because they expect you to jumpseat back so they don't have to buy a ticket, and they keep you in the airport all day not knowing if your really going to leave so they do not have to provide you a hotel?
The word on the street from Allegiant pilots is not great, and things are going down hill fast unless your management. As far as the union goes, the pilot group offers things and the counter offer is NO from the company?
Who knows the exact % of the fleet being broken at any given time? It's not like they publish that number and disseminate it to the pilot group. It does seem like it at times though, from the number of rescue flights we do. They did miss payday yesterday, a problem with the vendor according to the email. We did get paid this morning (direct deposit). I've never sat at an airport all day because they wouldn't get me a hotel, and I've been on reserve for almost 2 years. I have jumpseated home from assignments because full flights would've had me sitting at the airport for hours before there was a seat available that they could purchase for me (which I verified with the airlines). I always tell the captain why I'm jumpseating and haven't been refused a jump yet.

I think G4 could be great, but it's not right now. We are having our share of issues, and if you've got a choice between coming here and going to another major, it would be hard to argue in Allegiant's favor.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup9
That's correct calls are being made.
Can Any Allegiant guys weigh in on, 15% to 20 % of the fleet being broken at anytime? Not getting paid on time? Scheduling leaving you away from base for days at a time because they expect you to jumpseat back so they don't have to buy a ticket, and they keep you in the airport all day not knowing if your really going to leave so they do not have to provide you a hotel?
The word on the street from Allegiant pilots is not great, and things are going down hill fast unless your management. As far as the union goes, the pilot group offers things and the counter offer is NO from the company?
Old airplanes. So, they do brake. Often. Not sure about the daily numbers. But, from a business standpoint, doesn’t seem to be impacting profitability. If you are on reserve, expect to be shuttled all over the place. If you live in florida, this will be palatable. You will be doing a lot of OKC (our heavy mx base), and getting stuck there a few times.

There is no expectation for jump seating in lieu of deadheading. This might be coming from one or two, eager little beaver types who have volunteered themselves. They aren’t too bad with upping the hotel room, if they forget to reserve one. You just have to politely remind them you need one. The only real issue here is, g4 is not a regular customer for hotel rooms. So, if its late, say 1000 pm to the wee hours of the morning, the hotel staff might be looking at you wondering why your there.

Ya, payroll got jacked. Company made it good. Offered to cover any past due fiduciaries as a result. Contract negotiations. Like all airlines, any and all items that are cost neutral are being discussed. Any topic that is not, well. Is not. This will be the case, and was anticipated. My guess, I am not privy to any union business. But, we will go through the motions, complete due diligence for the next couple of years. Then apply for self help.

This is where things will get ugly. Most of the upper management team is old school Northwest. They have a visceral disdain for anything union. That is a shared attitude from the top.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:56 AM
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When it comes to hotels and sitting at the airport all day, there has been twice that I called crew services (scheduling) and asked for a rental car when "stuck" for a couple days some place and they gave it to us with no questions asked. Once I brought a rescue flt an stayed with the broken airplane and our mechanic, the mechanic said it would be about 3 hrs to fix, called crew services, they gave us a rental car to get something to eat, then we left later that afternoon.

As far as deadheads, I have always called crew services and worked out a deadhead that works. For example, I want to go home earlier they work to get me a earlier flt. Or if I want to sleep in, they work with me to get a later flt.

I may not be doing rescue flts and mx flts as often as some, but I have never had any problems.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:18 PM
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Thank you all for the information!!

1)Does anyone have any current information on the interview and its processes?
2)As far as the Airbus's; any rumor to new hires getting on the Airbus?
3)Out of the Florida bases, which are the ones that new hires will be sent to? Sanford, St Pete, Punta Gorda?
4)Training in Vegas, Does the company provide a hotel while in training?
5)Training Pay until qualified?
6) Being based in Sanford, St Pete, Punta Gorda, Ft Lauderdale and on reserve do they expect you to cover all of these bases on your own dime? How does this process work?
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup9
Thank you all for the information!!

1)Does anyone have any current information on the interview and its processes? No current info. Did my interview over 2 years ago. It was a written, panel interview, and sim check
2)As far as the Airbus's; any rumor to new hires getting on the Airbus? All new hires for the next class ( 08/16/2013) are going to the MD80
3)Out of the Florida bases, which are the ones that new hires will be sent to? Sanford, St Pete, Punta Gorda? Punta Gorda... That is where all the growth is
4)Training in Vegas, Does the company provide a hotel while in training?Training is in Vegas and they do not pay for hotel
5)Training Pay until qualified? $2000 a month until Checkride
6) Being based in Sanford, St Pete, Punta Gorda, Ft Lauderdale and on reserve do they expect you to cover all of these bases on your own dime? How does this process work? if you are based in Sanford and you have to cover a trip in St Pete...they will rent you a car and you drive there. You only have to drive to your own base on your own dime
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