Allegiant Air
#621
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 72
To the person looking for the CPO I can say that it, unfortunately, will not help. I have had my resume walked in multiple times, attended a job fair where I was told to expect an interview, am current on the MD80 and live within a very short drive of two Florida bases. After having no success I asked a few friends to see what they could find out and they asked a couple different chief pilots who themselves said they did not understand what was going on in the HR department as far as recruitment.
Personally I think that their ideal candidate is someone with something in their background that won't let them move on to anywhere better, someone old enough to make Allegiant their home while they finish out their career, basically someone not likely to make waves or leave. I actually had someone tell me I would have a better chance with a past accident on my record.
A couple of you guys hit the nail on the head with regards to management objectives toward pilot pay and QOL. You are attempting to negotiate a contract so the more senior and experienced guys, that expect and deserve better pay and work rules, they can replace with guys that have been flying around for little pay with no work rules the better their position at the bargaining table. And if they can force everyone out that's fighting back well then they win by default.
It's sad to see that this seems to be the trend in the industry. Pilot wages get pushed down, stock prices go up and stakeholders get rich, all at the expense of safety and the employees. But what do they care, they'll just close the doors and start over somewhere else completely unaffected if something happens.
Anyway, after reading the countless negative posts here and stories from friends I count it a blessing that I did not get the call for an interview. To all you still trying to get on here, best of luck, I hope it all works out for the best. And good luck to the guys working hard to make Allegiant a better place!
Personally I think that their ideal candidate is someone with something in their background that won't let them move on to anywhere better, someone old enough to make Allegiant their home while they finish out their career, basically someone not likely to make waves or leave. I actually had someone tell me I would have a better chance with a past accident on my record.
A couple of you guys hit the nail on the head with regards to management objectives toward pilot pay and QOL. You are attempting to negotiate a contract so the more senior and experienced guys, that expect and deserve better pay and work rules, they can replace with guys that have been flying around for little pay with no work rules the better their position at the bargaining table. And if they can force everyone out that's fighting back well then they win by default.
It's sad to see that this seems to be the trend in the industry. Pilot wages get pushed down, stock prices go up and stakeholders get rich, all at the expense of safety and the employees. But what do they care, they'll just close the doors and start over somewhere else completely unaffected if something happens.
Anyway, after reading the countless negative posts here and stories from friends I count it a blessing that I did not get the call for an interview. To all you still trying to get on here, best of luck, I hope it all works out for the best. And good luck to the guys working hard to make Allegiant a better place!
For the relatively short amount of time that I have been in the 121 world, I have come to know two types of pilots: Commuters, and non-commuters. The former seeming much less happy than the later. Adding a commute essentially gives me 4 less days off per month. That is worth a lot of pay and benefits to me. That being said, there are no other airlines based in the city that I want to live in, so Allegiant is an avenue that I definately want to pursue.
#622
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 60
Are things as bad as they say?
I'm planning on attending the SFO job fair in Oct and was wondering a few things about Allegiant.
Do they pay a wage during training?
Do they supply a hotel room?
Is the training (testing from what I've read), department really adversarial?
Is there a place I can go to find out about benefits, schedules, etc?
Thanks in advance for your input. I appreciate it.
Do they pay a wage during training?
Do they supply a hotel room?
Is the training (testing from what I've read), department really adversarial?
Is there a place I can go to find out about benefits, schedules, etc?
Thanks in advance for your input. I appreciate it.
#624
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
I hope that this is inaccurate. I would be based 10 minutes from where I live in a junior base. To me that would be worth the lack of pay and benefits compared to other LCCs.
For the relatively short amount of time that I have been in the 121 world, I have come to know two types of pilots: Commuters, and non-commuters. The former seeming much less happy than the later. Adding a commute essentially gives me 4 less days off per month. That is worth a lot of pay and benefits to me. That being said, there are no other airlines based in the city that I want to live in, so Allegiant is an avenue that I definately want to pursue.
For the relatively short amount of time that I have been in the 121 world, I have come to know two types of pilots: Commuters, and non-commuters. The former seeming much less happy than the later. Adding a commute essentially gives me 4 less days off per month. That is worth a lot of pay and benefits to me. That being said, there are no other airlines based in the city that I want to live in, so Allegiant is an avenue that I definately want to pursue.
#625
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
I'm planning on attending the SFO job fair in Oct and was wondering a few things about Allegiant.
Do they pay a wage during training?
Do they supply a hotel room?
Is the training (testing from what I've read), department really adversarial?
Is there a place I can go to find out about benefits, schedules, etc?
Thanks in advance for your input. I appreciate it.
Do they pay a wage during training?
Do they supply a hotel room?
Is the training (testing from what I've read), department really adversarial?
Is there a place I can go to find out about benefits, schedules, etc?
Thanks in advance for your input. I appreciate it.
#626
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: md 80
Posts: 7
I believe that there are about 3 or so very negative people on here that may or may not work for g4 that really turn people away. Why you ask? Because thats what they want to do. Like they have said "stay away till we get a contract". This is just a ploy. I have friends that work at g4 and love it. One is a Dec 2013 nh and is number 2 now on the seniority list for the fo side in his base. He is also a commuter and is still happy. Was training a mess? Yes it was, but now everything is in house and at the new training facility and not pan am's. Is it perfect? No, but who is? Hope this helps people that are on the fence.
#627
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 60
While it may be tedious to read the 623 posts above yours, all your questions will be answered along with some valuable inside information that you need to know before hitching your wagon to this company. I've read every one and as a current employee, I can tell you that there is no embellishment.
And on another note, I hope Allegiant doesn't have the same adversarial "testing" department that my current employer Piedmont has. It would be nice to go to training without having the feeling that a knife could go in your back at any moment.
#628
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
I believe that there are about 3 or so very negative people on here that may or may not work for g4 that really turn people away. Why you ask? Because thats what they want to do. Like they have said "stay away till we get a contract". This is just a ploy. I have friends that work at g4 and love it. One is a Dec 2013 nh and is number 2 now on the seniority list for the fo side in his base. He is also a commuter and is still happy. Was training a mess? Yes it was, but now everything is in house and at the new training facility and not pan am's. Is it perfect? No, but who is? Hope this helps people that are on the fence.
While a few of us are more vocal than others, the number of unhappy pilots rings in a little more than 3. The rest are busy interviewing elsewhere.
#629
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 657
I believe that there are about 3 or so very negative people on here that may or may not work for g4 that really turn people away. Why you ask? Because thats what they want to do. Like they have said "stay away till we get a contract". This is just a ploy. I have friends that work at g4 and love it. One is a Dec 2013 nh and is number 2 now on the seniority list for the fo side in his base. He is also a commuter and is still happy. Was training a mess? Yes it was, but now everything is in house and at the new training facility and not pan am's. Is it perfect? No, but who is? Hope this helps people that are on the fence.
#630
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Fair enough. I was just looking for either a benefit reference page, or the Cliff Note version in lieu of wading through 623 posts, or 77 pages at 8 per page.
And on another note, I hope Allegiant doesn't have the same adversarial "testing" department that my current employer Piedmont has. It would be nice to go to training without having the feeling that a knife could go in your back at any moment.
And on another note, I hope Allegiant doesn't have the same adversarial "testing" department that my current employer Piedmont has. It would be nice to go to training without having the feeling that a knife could go in your back at any moment.
The training department is getting better but it is overwhelmed now. And yes, it has been described by many as a "testing" department.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post