Allegiant Air
09-17-2015, 12:17 PM
#3961
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Yellow Bus
Posts: 355
As other people said, upgrade is so short because of QOL. It's horrible if you're anywhere close to the bottom of the list in certain bases. Even if you live in base you can get a phone call for a 3 week TDY reserve assignment sending you across the country without the opportunity to come home. On top of this, when you're inconvenienced with getting TDY'd involuntarily, you'll be at the mercy of the travel department if you get a rental car and a descent hotel. Per diem is $1/hr. Good luck living off of $24/day without being able to cook your own meals. On top of this, when you have a concern about the lack of a rental car or quality of hotel you are labeled as a complainer and there has been instances where a certain BCP has taken away rental cars from crew members for complaining.
This is just the tip of the iceberg and doesn't even start with how disfunctional the operation is and the responsibility of keeping it all together falls on the shoulders of the captain. When something is missed (no matter how good you are, even the sharpest of pilots make mistakes) you will be called into LAS to have a "debrief."
This is why upgrade is short. Good luck if that is what you want. If you're planning on moving on from G4 after you get your TPIC time, be very weary. There are a lot of ways that G4 can add a blemish to your record that will prevent you from leaving to a legacy.
This is just the tip of the iceberg and doesn't even start with how disfunctional the operation is and the responsibility of keeping it all together falls on the shoulders of the captain. When something is missed (no matter how good you are, even the sharpest of pilots make mistakes) you will be called into LAS to have a "debrief."
This is why upgrade is short. Good luck if that is what you want. If you're planning on moving on from G4 after you get your TPIC time, be very weary. There are a lot of ways that G4 can add a blemish to your record that will prevent you from leaving to a legacy.
Thank you very much for the info. I have to really look at this. I've heard it's pretty awful.
09-17-2015, 04:00 PM
#3962
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 136
Stok1, sounds like you did something stupid and got called on it. Funny, the only ones I know who have had CVRs pulled are serious issues. You don't agree with how they handled your situation and now you are on here making crap up? And I was wondering why you can't get a job anywhere else........
09-17-2015, 09:41 PM
#3963
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: MD80
Posts: 34
No one is going to dig thru 400 pages of bitterness and admitted half truths. Every airline has this type of guys and you instantly are ignored. Can we let this thread die? It's the weekend at Bernie's APC party here and no one cares. Stok1, sounds like you did something stupid and got called on it. Funny, the only ones I know who have had CVRs pulled are serious issues. You don't agree with how they handled your situation and now you are on here making crap up? And I was wondering why you can't get a job anywhere else........
09-18-2015, 08:47 AM
#3964
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 63
I could've upgraded at the same rate at UAL, AA and DAL too.
Wait a minute....
09-18-2015, 10:23 AM
#3965
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 155
09-18-2015, 10:42 AM
#3967
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 154
What do you consider inexperienced? I assume you believe everybody coming here has no prior experience. All the DHL, Evergreen, Aloha, Regional etc. guys and gals are going to be inexperienced are arrogant Captains? Don't buy a ticket on Delta, United, or American. That is where you get the inexperienced crews, not here. (Half of all their lifts in the U.S. are regional pilots). And I'm not putting the regional guys and guys down at all, we all have to start somewhere. I'm just pointing a fact out. Take Amtrack, it's only 7 times more unsafe then the airlines and will take ten times as long.
09-18-2015, 10:47 AM
#3968
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 107
FYI we have great pilots in both seats here with lots of experience. I'd trust any FO here as much as any legacy carrier FO.
09-18-2015, 11:00 AM
#3969
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
I'll help you sound smarter next time you want to belittle every FO at Allegiant, PIT is an AB base. So you won't need to fly on that "POS MD-80".
FYI we have great pilots in both seats here with lots of experience. I'd trust any FO here as much as any legacy carrier FO.
FYI we have great pilots in both seats here with lots of experience. I'd trust any FO here as much as any legacy carrier FO.
09-18-2015, 11:19 AM
#3970
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 107
Not sure if you are making a general statement or asking me a question personally. It was md83 that mentioned holding CA in 8 months. I've never indicated on this forum whether I am a CA or FO. I'll give you a hint, when I was hired it was a 6 year upgrade, my class could have held upgrade at about the two year mark, and my class could have held AB CA at the 3 year mark. So what does my prior AB experience have to do with the fact that we have great pilots over here? Many of whom, as indicated on this thread, use their emergency skills much more often than any other airline pilot.
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