Concorde001

What are the real mins? Their web site is showing ATP mins, are they that desperate?

fishforfun

People with less than 3000 hours are having a tough time getting called.

Concorde001

Thanks for the info!

fishforfun

No problem. There are exceptions but my experience has been even the youngest in class have about 4000 hours. I'm sure there are exceptions but this is just what I saw.

Thunderpig

3000 hours typically is what they seem to be using as a threshold, except for military (single seat types). Getting a call is not a guarantee..though we seem to be mining Republic and ExpressJet quite a bit. Despite what some like to intimate in here, they are actually selective, in some cases perhaps too much so. Normal career progression wherever a person has flown seems to be quite a factor, and it is understood how backlogged some places have been.

Desperation is relative...we are still getting very solid pilots for the most part, but the pool is shrinking. I talked to one gentleman here who is on the Bus...he was turned down by JetBlue two years ago and is a very solid pilot, then out of the blue was called again and he turned them down. Even JetBlue seems to be feeling a bit of a pinch in regards to what their pool has become...

dfwflyboy

Is the junior upgrade really dec 2014 hire? that's like a 8-9 month upgrade. Is the attrition that high, with only 600 pilots flying, that would be about 200 attrition a year. I'm thinking of applying and trying to get a quick upgrade. XJT has no upgrade in sight.

Also, whats the QOL like there. I read a while ago that its not that good, but that was over a year ago. Is it still all day lines out of the bases? I went back about 20 pages and there was nothing about this. thanks guys. I don't know anyone there to ask

pipercub

The junior Captains are a product of that being a junior pilot at Allegiant air is not fun to say the least. Reserve your schedule can be changed at will even days off. You can be sent company wide to cover flying maybe even for the entire month. TDY on the bottom end is crazy and can happen any month for month on month (think current record is one pilot was on TDY for 18 Months straight) . This fact has had pilots elect to return to the Right seat due to the poor quality of life. The most junior Captains are in what is called the VDB base on MD80 you are permanent TDY and your base changes month to month and your schedule is very dependent on where they send you. The other junior Captains are all in the east due to more growth. One the west Captain upgrade is more like 5+ some bases like BLI people have to wait for people to retire.

Thunderpig

The "quick" upgrade here is not something that you should really be showing up here for. Things are far too fluid to assume anything...attrition is not as bad as some think (yet), but is fairly high in the market right now given the pool of applicants.

While there are opportunities available for a few people to upgrade quickly, it is not necessarily the rule depending on needs of the company. The process is slightly arbitrary and subject to change...

That being said, QOL is relative...there are lots of people here who are reasonably to pretty happy with the job, knowing that much needs to be improved. Who knows if a contract will solve anything but some pay/retirement issues...TDYs are still an issue, but since bases tend to fluctuate, needs change and the company rolls with that.

Stok1

Also consider Allegiant maintenance is like everything else cheap and subpar profits first safety, sometimes a close second. Reference Allegiant Air flt#436, 8/17/15 LAS to PIA; Our stellar understaffed maintenance department in LAS subcontracted a maintenance inspection; they forgot to ensure a cotter pin was installed properly in the tail assembly of that aircraft, oops.

An operational dispatch department that is still in the part 135 world. Reference our current and soon to be fired, oops I mean resignated VP of ops Bingo-baden. Captain-Bingo alongside our director of safety were dispatched to a closed airport, our now infamous Fargo ND flight. Which disrupted a blue angels rehearsal due to their erroneous/false emergency declaration. Notams, dispatch; Pilots missed it.

So, when you get that fast upgrade, you are playing goalie catching all department failures and criminality, in the end you get hanged. Allegiant maintenance skillfully conned an airbus crew into ferrying with pax on board having one of the hydraulic systems mel’d. Reference our PIE captain who was terminated for emergency evacuating his airplane for reported smoke emanating from his plane. No support, guilty until proven innocent for all incidents inquiry. Allegiant management likes to call these interrogations “Safety Debriefings”. Very little recourse for any discipline; no contract, no arbitration.

EjetTaxi

Are you able to be hired into a certain airframe? E.g. bidding is only in class and by seniority. Also what's take home pay/expenses during training. Thanks.