gringo

Overheard today on Jax Center...

"Allegiant 878, understand you need to return to St. Pete?"

"Jax Center, that's affirmative."

"Uhhh... Ok. And what's the reason?"

...

...

"Um, company convenience"

"Company convenience?"

...

"Yeah. If we land at destination our airplane will be AOG..."

"OK then, company convenience then. Turn to heading..."

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...029Z/KPIE/KPIE

Globerunner513

haha wow. Well took a peek at the flight, looks like those passengers are taking about a 3 hour delay in total. Kinda crazy, but not super terrible, particularly for a G4 tail swap.

In other news, an interesting run of diversions last night:

IWA-FSD-OMA-FSD-GFK.

Purple Drank

Whatever happened to the managment hacks who declared an emergency at FAR?

That elevator issue is insanely scary. Mad props to the captain for choosing the high speed abort. It was a judgment call, and a guy there was just fired for making a judgment call with that evacuation.

I wonder if this guy will get fired for a judgment call.

GordoCooper

So the answer is; nothing happened ref the "capt bingo fuel" issue. Why? Because, blame was scattered elsewhere, and the FAA simply won't look further than what AAY tells them. There are too many steps for the FAA to take. If AAY only provides minimum details, as long as the FAA can show an honest mistake, then GB continues on!
As for the flight control issue. AAY has told the press and FAA that this too, was a mere one time event. They have inspected each aircraft, and there is no problem.......so,
Come on FAA; how many MD80 flights were cancelled/postponed for the critical fleet inspection? Oh wait, the answer is NONE! Why? Because there was no true inspection. If so....here it is....
AAY pilots.....have you seen one entry in your aircraft logbook of this so called inspection? I doubt it. Why? It has already been swept under the rug. I'd like to know if the out stations even have tail inspection capability? It's a fairly high tail.....have you seen a scissor lift at your base behind each and every md80 since the incident?
No logbook entry of these so called inspections; most stations without capability of even looking closely at the tail; but hey.......stock price is up!
Thanks FAA.....you're doing a great job!

G4er

In IWA they checked every MD 80 the night after the incident with a scissor lift. Don't know about the other bases but that is a bold statement to make on a public forum if it turns out to be false. Again, you don't have to go off into la la land.
The mechanical that happened on the LAS to PIA is VERY disturbing. But to say Allegiant is lieing about checking the other aircraft... Without knowing the facts.... Very unprofessional. That is one thing Allegiant can't take from us but sadly some people will give that away and post something to sensasualize .

Packrat

It is possible the inspections were "as able."

full of luv

Why does your "union" put up with that at all? That should have been gone a week after the vote.
There are certain parts of a contract that are required, and scheduling transparency is key to a lot of it, otherwise how can you as a pilot tell when the contract is not being followed, or even their company self proclaimed working rules.
There should be complete transparency on scheduling and upgrade and base awards, etc. It shouldn't be a negotiating point either, it's the way the pilots know what's going on.

AAG is sort of like Iran wanting to "negotiate" the ability of the parties to check for compliance and extract benefits just for providing the verification that they are not cheating.

GordoCooper

Oh, oops, I forgot....ok, since it's the 'public forum'; I meant to say "in my opinion" to all of my previous post!
Now, I find it interesting you didn't mention the logbook entry you found?! Oh yes, I know.......it's not 'required' since AAY volunteered to inspect. Ok, ok, as long as you are satisfied, then all is well! I stand corrected; maintenance, and transparency is platinum standard!

The Chow

Can someone break this elevator boost issue down into layman terms for me? The left hydraulic system has an elevator boost to assist in a stall. But the report is stating that the left side became uncoupled from the right side and that caused the nose to start coming up before V1?

HVYMETALDRVR

Small correction to my prior statemet, after checking our scheduling system, merlot. As an FO you can see a fellow CA's schedule in base if he/she is on the same equipment and allows their schedule to be viewed by others.

To address your point. We don't have a contract. The union has been fighting for us tooth and nail and I respect those guys for it. But it was the bottom of the ninth in the world series and our CEO hit a grand slam back in June when he got our "PWA" thrown out in court (long story). Now we have NO contract. This company does what it wants, when it wants too, mercilessly.

I'm assuming your at SWA? I envy you guys and your management. I know you're in mediation for the first time and things aren't going as swimmingly as they used too, but its a far cry from this place. Our management has a track record for being the exact opposite, they won't give us an inch whatsoever. They're main battle objective now is union de-certification. They were successful with the dispatchers and are very close with the Flight Attendants. Fortunately, I don't think they'll be able to pull it off with the pilots, not anytime soon that is. Good Luck to you guys over there, hopefully you get things worked out soon.