Allegiant Air
#3251
This type of stuff does nothing but make the pilot look like a frickin moron. The airplane couldn't hold altitude at 330, huh? How heavy was the plane? What was the ISA deviation?
Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.
The plane makes you nervous because it goes near the limit? Really? Do you return to the gate if you have a 499 degree start because it approached the limit? Jeezus people... Learn your frickin systems.
Skywest recently stalled a -200... I don't know how we haven't done the same with some of our rocket scientists at the controls.
The plane makes you nervous because it goes near the limit? Really? Do you return to the gate if you have a 499 degree start because it approached the limit? Jeezus people... Learn your frickin systems.
Second I know my limitations, but when both engines on said aircraft push redline on nearly every take off that is cause for concern. What happened to only one red engine per plane??? What about safety is our highest core value?? I don't care that on paper this practice is "safe and legal" when in reality we ARE putting extra stress and wear and tear on these motors. It wouldn't count for two cycles if it didn't. So yes, constantly pushing an engine right up to limits that shows signs of already being weak with another engine that isn't much better gives me cause for concern.
#3253
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
Still you ValueGiant, CLMP, Vegaspilot, Hotel Pen, CRXpilot, Tyler ect ect. All the same people.
You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander.
You all are lucky Allegiant doesn't have a court make APC cough up your IP addresses, track you down and have you fired. They would also be in a good position to sue you for slander.
Last edited by tyler durden; 07-18-2015 at 04:01 AM.
#3255
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Have you seen those offices at the "new" headquarters? I would go completely insane as well if I had to work there and deal with those individuals. It's like a Chinese sweatshop. Just long rows of desks with zero chance of privacy to get work done. I think at night it turns into a sewing room for Abercombie & Fitch.
#3256
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
And deletions. The fact that 2 VPs were given their walking papers last week is proof that even senior management knows change is needed. No idea who will eventually replace them but for the sake of those who stay (my Phone hasn't rung yet), I hope that trusting, charismatic leaders & managers find their way into these and other key positions. A change in philosophy will obviously have to come from the top and that too must happen eventually. We should try to lay the groundwork to encourage our good guys to step up or this place will only get worse.
Good leaders like Bethune have turned companies around by finding talented leaders and working with them to find joint solutions with the line workers. Who knows, a new fleet type, a change in management philosophy and a descent contract could eventually make a difference around here. It's happened before at places like Spirit, who knows, one can hope, right?
Last edited by tyler durden; 07-18-2015 at 08:27 AM.
#3257
Hey Disco; your pompous post are at least entertaining to those of us who actually care about AAY. But before you attempt to extinguish statements on here (why would you try that by the way?); let me point out something: your "sue for slander" exhibits that YOU, are the idiot here. Slander, is #1; an ORAL statement. #2; a FALSE statement; and also requires the plaintiff (this would be the company to help you out) prove specific damages. There is also an element of intent I believe that would also be missing on posts on this board.
Now it looks like you are posting false information saying the company, FAA, etc should find the information on these individuals and take action on them. Well, Slander wouldn't even make it to the file clerk at the courthouse. Look up Libel (actually, I'll help you out again). This is a written, published form of defamation; which is really what you are trying to say. But before you jump on here and make a correction to your idiocy; look up a few case law references regarding yelp; google review; trip advisor; etc.
Now, I'll accept the "thank you" from you! And your correct, I didn't need to waste my time with you, but I just want to let others know, you do look like an idiot on here. I also want our free speech rights to overshadow your ridiculous attempt to silence others. Hey everyone: post what you like, as long as the statements are not intentionally (and factually proven by the company) false.
Lastly; I differ from a few others regarding you on the bus at AAY. I want you to stay there. At least until you leave. You see, from the left seat on the 80, you sound like the type of FO that really doesn't make for a pleasant trip. You appear cocky, pompous, and simply out for yourself. You are the "I got mine" type of troop that those of us who fight for the group shake our heads at. Oh don't worry, we'll still include you in the benefits of a great contract, but we all know, you will only be looking out for yourself. Oh wait; with your charismatic personality, I'm certain Delta, AA, SWA, etc will be using your technique, and searching you out from your IP address and begging you to work for them. I guess you won't be here for a new contract after all.
Now it looks like you are posting false information saying the company, FAA, etc should find the information on these individuals and take action on them. Well, Slander wouldn't even make it to the file clerk at the courthouse. Look up Libel (actually, I'll help you out again). This is a written, published form of defamation; which is really what you are trying to say. But before you jump on here and make a correction to your idiocy; look up a few case law references regarding yelp; google review; trip advisor; etc.
Now, I'll accept the "thank you" from you! And your correct, I didn't need to waste my time with you, but I just want to let others know, you do look like an idiot on here. I also want our free speech rights to overshadow your ridiculous attempt to silence others. Hey everyone: post what you like, as long as the statements are not intentionally (and factually proven by the company) false.
Lastly; I differ from a few others regarding you on the bus at AAY. I want you to stay there. At least until you leave. You see, from the left seat on the 80, you sound like the type of FO that really doesn't make for a pleasant trip. You appear cocky, pompous, and simply out for yourself. You are the "I got mine" type of troop that those of us who fight for the group shake our heads at. Oh don't worry, we'll still include you in the benefits of a great contract, but we all know, you will only be looking out for yourself. Oh wait; with your charismatic personality, I'm certain Delta, AA, SWA, etc will be using your technique, and searching you out from your IP address and begging you to work for them. I guess you won't be here for a new contract after all.
#3258
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Hey Disco; your pompous post are at least entertaining to those of us who actually care about AAY. But before you attempt to extinguish statements on here (why would you try that by the way?); let me point out something: your "sue for slander" exhibits that YOU, are the idiot here. Slander, is #1; an ORAL statement. #2; a FALSE statement; and also requires the plaintiff (this would be the company to help you out) prove specific damages. There is also an element of intent I believe that would also be missing on posts on this board.
Now it looks like you are posting false information saying the company, FAA, etc should find the information on these individuals and take action on them. Well, Slander wouldn't even make it to the file clerk at the courthouse. Look up Libel (actually, I'll help you out again). This is a written, published form of defamation; which is really what you are trying to say. But before you jump on here and make a correction to your idiocy; look up a few case law references regarding yelp; google review; trip advisor; etc.
Now, I'll accept the "thank you" from you! And your correct, I didn't need to waste my time with you, but I just want to let others know, you do look like an idiot on here. I also want our free speech rights to overshadow your ridiculous attempt to silence others. Hey everyone: post what you like, as long as the statements are not intentionally (and factually proven by the company) false.
Lastly; I differ from a few others regarding you on the bus at AAY. I want you to stay there. At least until you leave. You see, from the left seat on the 80, you sound like the type of FO that really doesn't make for a pleasant trip. You appear cocky, pompous, and simply out for yourself. You are the "I got mine" type of troop that those of us who fight for the group shake our heads at. Oh don't worry, we'll still include you in the benefits of a great contract, but we all know, you will only be looking out for yourself. Oh wait; with your charismatic personality, I'm certain Delta, AA, SWA, etc will be using your technique, and searching you out from your IP address and begging you to work for them. I guess you won't be here for a new contract after all.
Now it looks like you are posting false information saying the company, FAA, etc should find the information on these individuals and take action on them. Well, Slander wouldn't even make it to the file clerk at the courthouse. Look up Libel (actually, I'll help you out again). This is a written, published form of defamation; which is really what you are trying to say. But before you jump on here and make a correction to your idiocy; look up a few case law references regarding yelp; google review; trip advisor; etc.
Now, I'll accept the "thank you" from you! And your correct, I didn't need to waste my time with you, but I just want to let others know, you do look like an idiot on here. I also want our free speech rights to overshadow your ridiculous attempt to silence others. Hey everyone: post what you like, as long as the statements are not intentionally (and factually proven by the company) false.
Lastly; I differ from a few others regarding you on the bus at AAY. I want you to stay there. At least until you leave. You see, from the left seat on the 80, you sound like the type of FO that really doesn't make for a pleasant trip. You appear cocky, pompous, and simply out for yourself. You are the "I got mine" type of troop that those of us who fight for the group shake our heads at. Oh don't worry, we'll still include you in the benefits of a great contract, but we all know, you will only be looking out for yourself. Oh wait; with your charismatic personality, I'm certain Delta, AA, SWA, etc will be using your technique, and searching you out from your IP address and begging you to work for them. I guess you won't be here for a new contract after all.
#3259
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 74
Management posers aside. Potential new hires should take note. This is how our management uses their time. To spread the ill will of their masters.
#3260
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: 7th green
Posts: 4,378
I have nothing but admirations for the Allegiant MD guys. They've save Allegiant from a smoking hole Valujet type incident that could and would kill off the whole thing. Too bad management can't or won't recognize that the pilots are what's keeping the whole thing afloat.
Sad, really sad.
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