Allegiant Air
07-01-2015, 08:05 AM
#3041
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,459
Saber tech was one of the primary culprits cited in the ValuJet mishap but they were by no means the only ones. As witnessed at Allegiant, the profit driven culture drove irrational cost controls and a "Biased for action" mentality. As a way to discourage pilots from writing up airplanes, ValuJet pilots were not pay-protected when there was a maintenance cancellation. This caused pilots to carry discrepancies, creating a 'git-r-done' culture. Pay for training, which was woefully inadequate, an environment of intimidation, threats of termination, the list is endless and reminiscent of what pilots see today at Allegiant. It's no surprise that there is such resistance to organized labor there, management likes their "flexibility". Same leader, same formula, same story. The leadership's refusal to acknowledge responsibility, the financial rewards of reckless abandon, and the amnesia of the FAA all combine to explain why the same story repeats itself. Best of luck there guys, tough battle ahead. Things won't change until the one common denominator changes: it's leader.
If pilots, ship captains, railroad engineers and every other swinging Joe for that matter can be held criminally responsible for negligence, then why not leadership when their decisions put profit over safety with catastrophic consequences?
07-01-2015, 08:06 AM
#3042
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Back in school.
Posts: 580
The TDY for August reveals an interesting perspective on QOL at G4. There are 550 pilots on the seniority list. This list includes management/non-line flying pilots. There are 55 TDY assignments for August. Any other airline have over 10% of their flying pilots on a temporary assigned base? So TDY of over 10% of your entire seniority list. Looks like G4 doesn't know how to staff their unique non-standard airline. I guess that "home every night" concept is shrinking, and with the new bases opening up, I'm sure the 10% number will increase soon.
07-01-2015, 02:31 PM
#3043
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 74
Depends on the regional and/or your personal circumstances. If you live in base for one of the less abusive carriers and/or are satisfied with the quality of life at present. Some regionals can offer both; no commuting, desirable location. If that’s ones circumstances, no need to come to g4. Prospects for a legacy, if that’s the goal are almost identical now; g4 vs’. regional. If g4 is on your list, why not bypass and go to a national that already has a contract.
G4 management takes anti-pilot, anti-union to a whole new level. Combined with a judicial system and laws that are written by dirt bags like him, you have a toxic mix of circumstances and willing participants that leave our pilots with a massive almost impossible task. Our company is small and thus has absorbed his anti pilot/union zeal. Thus from top to bottom they speak his language like mindless radicals; ‘We’re Different’, ‘Not in our DNA’. Walking through the halls and listening to our fellow corporate types in Vegas, reminds me of what Jonestown would have been.
07-01-2015, 02:44 PM
#3044
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 948
Remind me not to drink the kool-aide at the next company picnic.....
07-01-2015, 03:10 PM
#3045
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 154
Depends on the regional and/or your personal circumstances. If you live in base for one of the less abusive carriers and/or are satisfied with the quality of life at present. Some regionals can offer both; no commuting, desirable location. If that’s ones circumstances, no need to come to g4. Prospects for a legacy, if that’s the goal are almost identical now; g4 vs’. regional. If g4 is on your list, why not bypass and go to a national that already has a contract.
G4 management takes anti-pilot, anti-union to a whole new level. Combined with a judicial system and laws that are written by dirt bags like him, you have a toxic mix of circumstances and willing participants that leave our pilots with a massive almost impossible task. Our company is small and thus has absorbed his anti pilot/union zeal. Thus from top to bottom they speak his language like mindless radicals; ‘We’re Different’, ‘Not in our DNA’. Walking through the halls and listening to our fellow corporate types in Vegas, reminds me of what Jonestown would have been.
G4 management takes anti-pilot, anti-union to a whole new level. Combined with a judicial system and laws that are written by dirt bags like him, you have a toxic mix of circumstances and willing participants that leave our pilots with a massive almost impossible task. Our company is small and thus has absorbed his anti pilot/union zeal. Thus from top to bottom they speak his language like mindless radicals; ‘We’re Different’, ‘Not in our DNA’. Walking through the halls and listening to our fellow corporate types in Vegas, reminds me of what Jonestown would have been.
07-01-2015, 03:13 PM
#3046
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
Lots of mission modes out today, one was +12 hours above guarantee. I hope there weren't any takers.
07-01-2015, 03:24 PM
#3047
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
Posts: 1,434
07-01-2015, 05:15 PM
#3049
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
I can't stop laughing! I come back to this thread for the entertainment. Seriously, It's better than fiction. Best comedy available.
Question: Did the summer heat come unexpectedly this year? Can someone please send these hacks a farmers almanac! Here's another: Was the 'extra demand" on aircraft unexpected or does Allegiant actually have a planning department that factors in KNOWN elements to their plan? Did their own plan surprise them like the summer heat? (Still laughing). "Pace of operations during peak travel."? Who sets that pace? So weak, Allegiant must also be short-changing their PR dept. 😂
When is Allegiant going to grow up, stop finding ridiculous excuses and blame games and start behaving like an airline? ("travel company"?). Disregard, they're "different".
The Planning (wishing) dept. obviously answers to the overzealous financial planning/analysis Gods. Does operations answer to them too? Do they also get over-ridden by clueless accountants when they complain their ridiculously over-optimistic summer flying 'wish-list' is not feasible?
This same crap happened every summer I was there. Same stooges, same 'shoot for the moon' approach to maximizing $$ at the passenger's expense. The execs are hitting the links, sipping cocktails while the exhausted employees deal with the mess they create. Hey, why not bail these poor execs out by picking up some mission modes? Reward their greed with bailout so you guys can do it all again next year. Be a sport! These "Leaders" clearly need the money.
Priceless.
Last edited by dawgdriver; 07-01-2015 at 05:58 PM.
07-01-2015, 05:28 PM
#3050
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Off to the left!
Posts: 465
Yes, it happens every summer. And in parts of January, parts of February, March, November, and December. Somehow, it always seems to catch them by surprise. In the time I was there, they were never able to figure out why it never worked well when you schedule more flights than you have planes and pilots to fly them.
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