Allegiant Air
#2851
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
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Is one of the pinks the guy who came here with an A 320 type and didn't study, was to cool for school and went into his oral not knowing the majority of the limitations?
That one is the company's fault because they should have told him that although he had a type he still had to pass an oral.
That one is the company's fault because they should have told him that although he had a type he still had to pass an oral.
We are our own worst enemy, aren't we?
#2852
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
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Posts: 4,378
- New and highly questionable related transactions with the CEO that are equal to one-third of the company’s SG&A expense in 2014. This includes sponsorship of CEO Gallagher’s NASCAR racing team, for which his son drives; a video production company, Alpine Labs, co-founded by CEO Gallagher, for the production of a game-show; and Adapt Courseware, a developer of online teaching tools also controlled by CEO Gallagher, for the production of company training tools.
#2853
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
How many people were "pinked" last year?
Why are you unprepared to go into a PC? Many other airlines are not AQP, and see the sim on a 6/12 month basis. With the ability to have items retrained on a PC, you really have to F- up many times to bust one. That's on you... Not the training department.
Yes, the TDY's sucked....
AQP resources diverted to what? You know this how?
Again, let's talk in truths and not what the guy I flew with told me because he heard it from his FA. There is enough factual information to put on here that we don't need to embellish or speak in half truths.
Why are you unprepared to go into a PC? Many other airlines are not AQP, and see the sim on a 6/12 month basis. With the ability to have items retrained on a PC, you really have to F- up many times to bust one. That's on you... Not the training department.
Yes, the TDY's sucked....
AQP resources diverted to what? You know this how?
Again, let's talk in truths and not what the guy I flew with told me because he heard it from his FA. There is enough factual information to put on here that we don't need to embellish or speak in half truths.
Not everything is managements fault, but a lot of it is and it boils down to cost containment. Training doesn't help the profit/loss ratio and therefore gets marginalized.
In the interest of avoiding half truths, here are a few facts.
Fact: In the last six months alone there have been 2 new hire pilots terminated during Airbus training. One more is pending termination, which would make 3. We could debate the circumstances surrounding those, but the facts remain, they are now gone. There are many more who have busted rides and been retrained. Not healthy for your resume. That is just Airbus and guys I am aware of, there might be more. I'm not affiliated with the training department, and being back East, I get limited information on the other fleet types.
Fact: AQP has been on the back burner for eight years and the individual hired to bring AQP online has been moved to oversee the development of the ADAP software video training program, designed to eliminate cost by reducing the amount of time spent in ground school. $$ generator.
Fact: the training department has been shut down by the FAA
Fact: the MD-80 Systems ground school was reduced to five days total. Training management stood by and allowed the accountants to make this decision to save money on hotels. Our new hires paid the price and only after failed orals was the decision reversed and only because the failures were costing the company more money.
Fact: our simulators have been outsourced to Pan Am virtually since Allegiant moved to Las Vegas. It goes without saying that it doesn't get any worse in terms of quality and reliability. Cost was a known driver that negatively affected our training.
Fact: many of our in-house instructors were replaced by contract instructors to save money. Some were good, some were terrible, but in both cases they were trained by the company and turnover has been very high. Poor standardization and knowledge has been an issue and the quality of our training has suffered.
Training is a cost, not a revenue-generator, which means it will be treated like everything else to meet at the bare minimum standard. Our pilots pay the price while cost savings accumulate and the investor profits.
#2854
New Hire
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 8
Anyone want to talk about a certain xxxNV (MD80) that had a primary trim overheat 'ops checked good' some 7 or 8 times before 'those damn pilots' sent an ASAP?
Story I was told was that 'that damn company' thought 'those damn pilots' were up to some sort of no good job action, so they brought 'that damn plane' up to LAS and on flight #1 realized something was 'really f'ing wrong' with 'that damn plane' and proved once again that fate is indeed the hunter at Allegiant.
Did this really happen?
Last edited by 3to1Glide; 06-14-2015 at 07:51 PM.
#2855
Until...
Anyone want to talk about a certain xxxNV (MD80) that had a primary trim overheat 'ops checked good' some 7 or 8 times before 'those damn pilots' sent an ASAP?
Story I was told was that 'that damn company' thought 'those damn pilots' were up to some sort of no good job action, so they brought 'that damn plane' up to LAS and on flight #1 realized something was 'really f'ing wrong' with 'that damn plane' and proved once again that fate is indeed the hunter at Allegiant.
Did this really happen?
Anyone want to talk about a certain xxxNV (MD80) that had a primary trim overheat 'ops checked good' some 7 or 8 times before 'those damn pilots' sent an ASAP?
Story I was told was that 'that damn company' thought 'those damn pilots' were up to some sort of no good job action, so they brought 'that damn plane' up to LAS and on flight #1 realized something was 'really f'ing wrong' with 'that damn plane' and proved once again that fate is indeed the hunter at Allegiant.
Did this really happen?
#2856
Heard that every plane in PIE was AOG for some time...lots of cancellations!! :0
There's an 80 that's been a fixture in XNA for nearly a week, too. Two air returns.
There's an 80 that's been a fixture in XNA for nearly a week, too. Two air returns.
#2857
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 107
Just checked and all flights from PIE for both today (Monday) and yesterday (Sunday) were completed. I didn't see any cancellations. Not sure where you got that info from. I'm a west coast guy, so I don't know anything about whether there is an 80 in XNA.
#2858
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Try checking the return flights INTO PIE.....
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