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Old 06-09-2015, 01:33 PM
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The company is really spiking the crap out of the football the last 2 days. It makes for good labor relations I guess. Maybe they are trying to accelerate attrition. It's working on me.
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:04 PM
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The company is really spiking the crap out of the football the last 2 days. It makes for good labor relations I guess. Maybe they are trying to accelerate attrition. It's working on me.
To be honest, I think that's exactly what they are doing. Saves them a ton of $$$$ versus getting comfortable.
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:16 PM
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Seems to me that every pilot in the industry needs to be taking a good look at this situation. I mean, if the Allegiant pilot group can't get a fair shake from the courts, can anyone?

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Old 06-10-2015, 05:01 AM
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No one starts out as a Federal Judge. Duh.
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Old 06-10-2015, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by biigD
Seems to me that every pilot in the industry needs to be taking a good look at this situation. I mean, if the Allegiant pilot group can't get a fair shake from the courts, can anyone?

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Most pilots are watching Allegiant. The problem is you have either ignored advice or have very bad labor attorneys. The attempt at a wildcat strike while very good for chest thumping was much like a Bonzaii charge. Looks heroic but in the end incredibly ineffective. The NMB will view it as a attempt to end run their authority and your chances for gaining a release have just dropped to less then zero.
I wish you all the luck and the entire industry needs for you guys to be successful but your current direction is leading you no where.
Spend some money and hire some really good labor attorneys from DC and then listen to them.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Most pilots are watching Allegiant. The problem is you have either ignored advice or have very bad labor attorneys. The attempt at a wildcat strike while very good for chest thumping was much like a Bonzaii charge. Looks heroic but in the end incredibly ineffective. The NMB will view it as a attempt to end run their authority and your chances for gaining a release have just dropped to less then zero.
I wish you all the luck and the entire industry needs for you guys to be successful but your current direction is leading you no where.
Spend some money and hire some really good labor attorneys from DC and then listen to them.
Thanks for the free advice. It's worth every penny.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:23 PM
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Thanks for the free advice. It's worth every penny.
There will always be the armchair quarterbacks second-guessing on Monday morning. IBT and the pilots did it right. Stopped by a corrupt legal system, their courageous action showed the world that Allegiant is not all it's cracked up to be and caused the investment peeps to take notice. Take a look at the stock, it hasn't made it back since. Bold move, had to be done. All previous efforts to highlight the issues at allegiant failed, but the threat of a strike accomplished everything the IBT wanted to do leading up to that. Up until then, management had no time for us and the NMB was doing little to help matters. Suddenly the pace of negotiations has accelerated and the tone has changed. Allegiant used to be the Wall Street Cindarella and now it's name is associated with labor problems. This fight is far from over. No regrets
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:43 PM
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There will always be the armchair quarterbacks second-guessing on Monday morning. IBT and the pilots did it right. Stopped by a corrupt legal system, their courageous action showed the world that Allegiant is not all it's cracked up to be and caused the investment peeps to take notice. Take a look at the stock, it hasn't made it back since. Bold move, had to be done. All previous efforts to highlight the issues at allegiant failed, but the threat of a strike accomplished everything the IBT wanted to do leading up to that. Up until then, management had no time for us and the NMB was doing little to help matters. Suddenly the pace of negotiations has accelerated and the tone has changed. Allegiant used to be the Wall Street Cindarella and now it's name is associated with labor problems. This fight is far from over. No regrets
Well said.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
There will always be the armchair quarterbacks second-guessing on Monday morning. IBT and the pilots did it right. Stopped by a corrupt legal system, their courageous action showed the world that Allegiant is not all it's cracked up to be and caused the investment peeps to take notice. Take a look at the stock, it hasn't made it back since. Bold move, had to be done. All previous efforts to highlight the issues at allegiant failed, but the threat of a strike accomplished everything the IBT wanted to do leading up to that. Up until then, management had no time for us and the NMB was doing little to help matters. Suddenly the pace of negotiations has accelerated and the tone has changed. Allegiant used to be the Wall Street Cindarella and now it's name is associated with labor problems. This fight is far from over. No regrets
How much is the stock down? Most airline stocks are down 15% at least from earlier in the year. Delta was up to 49 and then dropped to as low as 41.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:25 PM
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How much is the stock down? Most airline stocks are down 15% at least from earlier in the year. Delta was up to 49 and then dropped to as low as 41.
The stock is actually up about 8% from the very beginning of the year where it was trading at $149/share. It spiked up to almost 200/share then dropped about 17% to where it is now at $163/share.
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