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Old 05-21-2015, 08:34 PM
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What does Allegiant use for charting? The current stock market. Pie charts; graphs; projections, etc. Anything else; Allegiant charts it's own course!
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:58 PM
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Also, for those of you who can't wait to come to Allegiant. Please, please read each and every one of the 270 previous pages. After nearly every page of issues (mostly negative), there are posts asking about interviews, schedules, pay, etc etc, and the "can't wait to get the call". If your logbook has the pages to apply at Allegiant, then take e time to read this entire thread. Yes, there are good things at AAY. But the bad things far outweigh the good right now. I know, I know; but I want to get in on the cusp of the new good that may come!

Let those currently at AAY deal with the current issues. In the unlikely event a good contract is to come soon, then the hiring window will be open, and you can get in at the cusp. Right now, it actually hurts us for MG, GB, and the rest to see new apps and excited young pilots begging for an interview.

Allegiant is at a current all time low (except the stock). Read the entire thread, and understand what is going on at G4.

Yes, myself and many many others are here now. Most of us came when the company was in a much different position. We are trying to make this a destination career airline. Those of you who won't take the time to read the plethora of information in is single thread are doing a dis-service to those who are trying to make it better before you jump!

Now, if you truly read the entire thread, and still want to come here.....turn in your medical certificate to the FAA. You have a mental issue and your medical is not valid!
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GordoCooper
What does Allegiant use for charting? The current stock market. Pie charts; graphs; projections, etc. Anything else; Allegiant charts it's own course!
Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question with a sarcastic and useless answer. I was talking about cockpit charts.
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:54 AM
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Thank you for taking the time to reply to my question with a sarcastic and useless answer. I was talking about cockpit charts.
It's kind of amusing that you use sarcasm to complain about Gordo's use of sarcasm. Please understand that asking Allegiant pilots about charts is like asking the titanic crew about deck chair arrangements.

Moving along, we use Jeppessen now but will be transitioning to NOS with the iPads. This is because its cheaper. Yes. Don't laugh. Until that happens (next decade?) we will continue to use jepps but I would caution you to do a complete inventory before you take off because charts are often missing and it's embarrassing and hazardous to your future when the company (and FAA) comes after you because you had to divert for their oversight. While you're at it, make sure you find time for a very exhaustive scan of the maintenance logbook and release paperwork. Plenty of little nuggets there too. Pubs are like every other department around here. A minefield of opportunities to surrender your certificate. Add crappy training, busted checkrides due to hostile FAA, inept cheap maintenance and you can start to understand why so many have tanked their careers here and so many, even senior captains, are leaving. The revolving door accelerates so come on over, there will be huge vacancies to fill as far as the eye can see. Minimum requirements and a pulse will do.

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Old 05-22-2015, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
I would caution you to do a complete inventory before you take off because charts are often missing and it's embarrassing and hazardous to your future when the company (and FAA) comes after you because you had to divert for their oversight. While you're at it, make sure you find time for a very exhaustive scan of the maintenance logbook and release paperwork. Plenty of little nuggets there too. Pubs are like every other department around here. A minefield of opportunities to surrender your certificate. Add crappy training, busted checkrides due to hostile FAA, inept cheap maintenance and you can start to understand why so many have tanked their careers here and so many, even senior captains, are leaving. The revolving door accelerates so come on over, there will be huge vacancies to fill as far as the eye can see. Minimum requirements and a pulse will do.
Yet captains do walkarounds and let mx throw them a logbook at the last minute. Then it's rush rush rush to get off the gate on time. Why?

How many of our coworkers have to get called in to Vegas before we acknowledge that safety is our priority, not being on time.
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:05 AM
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Yet captains do walkarounds and let mx throw them a logbook at the last minute. Then it's rush rush rush to get off the gate on time. Why?

How many of our coworkers have to get called in to Vegas before we acknowledge that safety is our priority, not being on time.
I believe that the demographics of the standard ALG passenger has arrival time about 5th on their list of things they care about during their trip.
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Maybe this will help the perspective. Even though I had an 85 hr line for May I was given 2 days of reserve thrown onto my schedule. Today was one. Went on reserve at 430am and of course I got a call at 431. Hey were going to have you take a dead head in a towncar for 3:15 min to operate an 6hr turn and then dh you back via another towncar. Really? Ok. 30 min later, no, we changed our minds your back on reserve, but we might send you to a dif station to operate a dif turn. 30 more min later, yes we are going to have you do the second turn, but there are no towncars. We are going to get you a rental and you have to drive 2 hrs, operate a 7 hour turn and drive back. Get to station and there is a plane swap that takes 1hr to do. Needless to say, it has been a very long day. Any yes, this happens all the time.
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That is ugly. Like baboon-butt ugly.
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Originally Posted by drahotad
Maybe this will help the perspective. Even though I had an 85 hr line for May I was given 2 days of reserve thrown onto my schedule. Today was one. Went on reserve at 430am and of course I got a call at 431. Hey were going to have you take a dead head in a towncar for 3:15 min to operate an 6hr turn and then dh you back via another towncar. Really? Ok. 30 min later, no, we changed our minds your back on reserve, but we might send you to a dif station to operate a dif turn. 30 more min later, yes we are going to have you do the second turn, but there are no towncars. We are going to get you a rental and you have to drive 2 hrs, operate a 7 hour turn and drive back. Get to station and there is a plane swap that takes 1hr to do. Needless to say, it has been a very long day. Any yes, this happens all the time.
Welcome to being based in FL. Oh, but at least you're home every night.
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Originally Posted by drahotad
Maybe this will help the perspective. Even though I had an 85 hr line for May I was given 2 days of reserve thrown onto my schedule. Today was one. Went on reserve at 430am and of course I got a call at 431. Hey were going to have you take a dead head in a towncar for 3:15 min to operate an 6hr turn and then dh you back via another towncar. Really? Ok. 30 min later, no, we changed our minds your back on reserve, but we might send you to a dif station to operate a dif turn. 30 more min later, yes we are going to have you do the second turn, but there are no towncars. We are going to get you a rental and you have to drive 2 hrs, operate a 7 hour turn and drive back. Get to station and there is a plane swap that takes 1hr to do. Needless to say, it has been a very long day. Any yes, this happens all the time.
Yep. If you're based in any of the FL cities, you are indeed on reserve for the entire state. Ah the rental cars. I'm just waiting for that day when a tired pilot is driving the 3 hours back to base after a 16 hr duty day, falls asleep at the wheel and injures (or heaven forbid kills) another motorist. Watch how fast the F&H lawyers go from defending status quo violations to throwing the pilot under the bus for driving while fatigued. Pilot loses everything and the company emerges unscathed. Nowhere in the GOM does it require a pilot to have a valid drivers license in their possession while on duty. "Sorry, I misplaced my drivers license and I'm getting a ride to work from a friend." End of story.
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