Allegiant Air
04-04-2015, 03:33 AM
#2421
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Good luck to you guys. The PHX pilots at AA will support you.
I've learned a little more about the RLA from this. G4 pilots were free to strike because the company violated the status quo provisions of the RLA. When they changed your workrules unilaterally they became liable to self help from the pilots. No release from the NMB was needed. I had never heard of that provision of the RLA before, I guess because no company is usually that stupid.
I understand the judge that issued the injunction against the strike was just sitting in for the previous judge that had jurisdiction in the initial litigation in this case. And this injunction is temporary until the original judge gets back on the 10th. I can't believe he will be pleased with the company violating his previous order. I would expect you guys would be released to self help.
In all these cases it comes down to the company choosing to take a foolish stand to try to save a dollar. It will end up costing them more to try and bust the union than they would make if they just negotiated in good faith.
I've learned a little more about the RLA from this. G4 pilots were free to strike because the company violated the status quo provisions of the RLA. When they changed your workrules unilaterally they became liable to self help from the pilots. No release from the NMB was needed. I had never heard of that provision of the RLA before, I guess because no company is usually that stupid.
I understand the judge that issued the injunction against the strike was just sitting in for the previous judge that had jurisdiction in the initial litigation in this case. And this injunction is temporary until the original judge gets back on the 10th. I can't believe he will be pleased with the company violating his previous order. I would expect you guys would be released to self help.
In all these cases it comes down to the company choosing to take a foolish stand to try to save a dollar. It will end up costing them more to try and bust the union than they would make if they just negotiated in good faith.
04-04-2015, 03:43 AM
#2422
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 473
Somebody please PM me with the coordinates for the strike fund.
I will come and show my support whenever possible, with drinks and food too.
It is really sad you guys had to go through this to defend yourself, but I think this was long overdue, all I have been reading on this thread was horrible.
You have our supports and we are all counting on you.
I will come and show my support whenever possible, with drinks and food too.
It is really sad you guys had to go through this to defend yourself, but I think this was long overdue, all I have been reading on this thread was horrible.
You have our supports and we are all counting on you.
04-04-2015, 07:02 AM
#2423
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Somebody please PM me with the coordinates for the strike fund.
I will come and show my support whenever possible, with drinks and food too.
It is really sad you guys had to go through this to defend yourself, but I think this was long overdue, all I have been reading on this thread was horrible.
You have our supports and we are all counting on you.
I will come and show my support whenever possible, with drinks and food too.
It is really sad you guys had to go through this to defend yourself, but I think this was long overdue, all I have been reading on this thread was horrible.
You have our supports and we are all counting on you.
04-04-2015, 08:31 AM
#2424
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
Guys, I got a confession to make. They say it is good for the soul. In that video where I said “I don’t want to strike, but I will if I have to.”.[look real hard turds, I’m in it]. I lied..
04-04-2015, 08:52 AM
#2425
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
Good luck to you guys. The PHX pilots at AA will support you.
I've learned a little more about the RLA from this. G4 pilots were free to strike because the company violated the status quo provisions of the RLA. When they changed your workrules unilaterally they became liable to self help from the pilots. No release from the NMB was needed. I had never heard of that provision of the RLA before, I guess because no company is usually that stupid.
I understand the judge that issued the injunction against the strike was just sitting in for the previous judge that had jurisdiction in the initial litigation in this case. And this injunction is temporary until the original judge gets back on the 10th. I can't believe he will be pleased with the company violating his previous order. I would expect you guys would be released to self help.
In all these cases it comes down to the company choosing to take a foolish stand to try to save a dollar. It will end up costing them more to try and bust the union than they would make if they just negotiated in good faith.
I've learned a little more about the RLA from this. G4 pilots were free to strike because the company violated the status quo provisions of the RLA. When they changed your workrules unilaterally they became liable to self help from the pilots. No release from the NMB was needed. I had never heard of that provision of the RLA before, I guess because no company is usually that stupid.
I understand the judge that issued the injunction against the strike was just sitting in for the previous judge that had jurisdiction in the initial litigation in this case. And this injunction is temporary until the original judge gets back on the 10th. I can't believe he will be pleased with the company violating his previous order. I would expect you guys would be released to self help.
In all these cases it comes down to the company choosing to take a foolish stand to try to save a dollar. It will end up costing them more to try and bust the union than they would make if they just negotiated in good faith.
A better assistance might be your union helping us with our company’s propaganda campaign, which is on par with the crap that comes out of Tehran.
04-04-2015, 05:31 PM
#2426
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: Retired Mil...ready to start the grind
Posts: 249
04-04-2015, 06:41 PM
#2427
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
A good outcome would be a cleaning of the house so to speak, by the board. Such an occurrence could very well be accomplished by a near annihilation of the stock.
04-04-2015, 09:43 PM
#2428
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 84
I think I can speak for most Allegiant pilots when I say, the outpouring of support from pilots throughout the industry has been very humbling!! Thank you guys so much!!! We have quite a fight on our hands and we will see this thing through!!
04-04-2015, 11:19 PM
#2429
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 76
Yes, it's inspiring to know that we are fighting everybody's fight. The task at hand is clearly bigger than us. Let's get this company straightened out for the sake of all pilots everywhere. Thanks to all of you sisters-and-brothers-from-other-mothers for your support.
04-06-2015, 03:42 AM
#2430
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Posts: 622
Gallagher doesn't like unions, so he refuses to work with them in any way? Like them or not, I'm pretty sure they've been a part of this industry for a little longer than he has. Sounds like your CEO needs a swift kick in the nuts while having a military drill instructor yell at him to grow the F up instead of whining like a little 2 year old.
I wish you all the best of luck! Hang that idiot high enough for all of the many childish CEOs in this industry to take notice.
I wish you all the best of luck! Hang that idiot high enough for all of the many childish CEOs in this industry to take notice.
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