Allegiant Air
#2412
Regional Fo
Hope everything works out for the pilot group here! Just short of mins here. Ex "old junk" corporate and current regional 121 guy. How much do you guys typically fly a month, junior bases, and Outlook for the mad dog?
Thanks! Stay strong!
Thanks! Stay strong!
#2413
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Off to the left!
Posts: 465
Hours per month depends on base and equipment, but could be 80-110 depending on the month. Junior base is the homeless base. The 80 isn't going anywhere for a while.
#2414
So the company is organizing a new hire class for May. What's the union position on what constitutes line crossing? Moving metal and generating revenue correct? I ask because I accepted the job back in October but had to defer to the next class (7 months later....) due to a mil deployment.
#2415
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,030
Durden speaks truth...the only problem that you might have is whether or not the company continues to pay for the hotel while you are in Vegas. Realistically, if the strike happens and continues prior to the class, you won't come out. If it happens during class and is protracted, we still don't know what will happen in terms of the company removing the pilot group from CASS. The union reps I spoke to seemed to think that this would not be a problem and those stuck in Vegas could make it out if need be.
#2416
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Underemployed!
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Durden speaks truth...the only problem that you might have is whether or not the company continues to pay for the hotel while you are in Vegas. Realistically, if the strike happens and continues prior to the class, you won't come out. If it happens during class and is protracted, we still don't know what will happen in terms of the company removing the pilot group from CASS. The union reps I spoke to seemed to think that this would not be a problem and those stuck in Vegas could make it out if need be.
Good luck! We're pulling for ya!
#2417
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
Tic-Toc
Tic-Toc B@tche$! We got lots of G4 DNA still to fry! Six days and a wake up. And we do it all over again. Booooom!
#2418
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,171
Usually when a strike happens, the company pulls its pilots out of CASS immediately. Usually all airlines let the pilots on strike jumpseat in the cabin though so you are not stuck. Vegas might be tough as your passengers will probably fill up all the remaining seats.
#2419
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Position: A320
Posts: 236
If it becomes an issue of CASS. The pilot group at VX already has seen that issue coming. Communications from our Jumpseat coordinator have already gone out. You guys are always welcome on our airplanes. We may not be able to get you in the flight deck, but we will get you home.
Out of Vegas we currently have daily flights to:
SFO
LAX
JFK
BOS
Out of Vegas we currently have daily flights to:
SFO
LAX
JFK
BOS
#2420
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Joined APC: May 2005
Position: B777/CA retired
Posts: 1,502
Good luck to you guys. The PHX pilots at AA will support you.
I've learned a little more about the RLA from this. G4 pilots were free to strike because the company violated the status quo provisions of the RLA. When they changed your workrules unilaterally they became liable to self help from the pilots. No release from the NMB was needed. I had never heard of that provision of the RLA before, I guess because no company is usually that stupid.
I understand the judge that issued the injunction against the strike was just sitting in for the previous judge that had jurisdiction in the initial litigation in this case. And this injunction is temporary until the original judge gets back on the 10th. I can't believe he will be pleased with the company violating his previous order. I would expect you guys would be released to self help.
In all these cases it comes down to the company choosing to take a foolish stand to try to save a dollar. It will end up costing them more to try and bust the union than they would make if they just negotiated in good faith.
I've learned a little more about the RLA from this. G4 pilots were free to strike because the company violated the status quo provisions of the RLA. When they changed your workrules unilaterally they became liable to self help from the pilots. No release from the NMB was needed. I had never heard of that provision of the RLA before, I guess because no company is usually that stupid.
I understand the judge that issued the injunction against the strike was just sitting in for the previous judge that had jurisdiction in the initial litigation in this case. And this injunction is temporary until the original judge gets back on the 10th. I can't believe he will be pleased with the company violating his previous order. I would expect you guys would be released to self help.
In all these cases it comes down to the company choosing to take a foolish stand to try to save a dollar. It will end up costing them more to try and bust the union than they would make if they just negotiated in good faith.
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