Allegiant Air
#2281
am I the only one that thinks we should wait now that we have a date with the NMB? A couple of weeks ago I was on board with plan B...but that's because we hadn't heard from the NMB for months, and there was no clue as to when we would hear anything. Now we have a date...and it's not that far away.
We don't know what this meeting is about. If it's just the NMBs weak attempt to jumpstart pointless negotiations again...then by all means, let's send a message and walk. But this could be an endgame meeting...one final meeting to see that neither side has compromised so a release is necessary.
I feel like everyone wants to burn the house down today, and for what? line bidding? We should be 100% focused on one thing...a contract. Why take a chance on ****ing off the mediators and damaging our position on the whole enchilada for such small potatoes?
IMHO naturally
We don't know what this meeting is about. If it's just the NMBs weak attempt to jumpstart pointless negotiations again...then by all means, let's send a message and walk. But this could be an endgame meeting...one final meeting to see that neither side has compromised so a release is necessary.
I feel like everyone wants to burn the house down today, and for what? line bidding? We should be 100% focused on one thing...a contract. Why take a chance on ****ing off the mediators and damaging our position on the whole enchilada for such small potatoes?
IMHO naturally
The NMB is comprised of people who know the law. As previously stated, the status quo strike to return us to our original starting point has nothing to do with contract improvement issues. If anything, the NMB might be sympathetic to MG saying please don't let them strike, we just went through one. But always remember, all of this can be avoided anytime MG wants.
Don't feel sorry for people who repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.
#2282
If any union leaders are viewing; lets stop with the urgent messages! We are all ready; we are all prepared; we have all notified our spouses; we have all either set up our cell phones or not. Those who have, have responded; those who haven't responded, we will likely see crossing our picket line and using an excuse of not getting the message. I for one, don't need any further urgent messages telling me to wait by my phone. As a matter of fact, I nearly chose to opt out and take my number off the list. If I show up to work, and see we're on strike, I'll put my trip bag back in my car, and grab a sign! The only SMS we need is......ON STRIKE! Not testing, testing, testing, or the sky is falling, or wolf wolf wolf. We know the company is seeing these messages, and if there is an attempt to show management we are about to walk; it only worked once for me! Fool me once.....shame on you.....fool me twice ( or daily ) shame on me for letting you. I'm not responding to the next SMS unless its the real deal.
#2283
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
What are the junior bases at G4? How long is the upgrade? How is the management-employee relationship? Can I hold 757 in Florida as a junior FO?
#2285
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 927
Relax......that's how this stuff works. This does carry with it an element of risk you know. Besides how do you know there are not discussions going on behind the scenes that might soon resolve this without a strike?
If any union leaders are viewing; lets stop with the urgent messages! We are all ready; we are all prepared; we have all notified our spouses; we have all either set up our cell phones or not. Those who have, have responded; those who haven't responded, we will likely see crossing our picket line and using an excuse of not getting the message. I for one, don't need any further urgent messages telling me to wait by my phone. As a matter of fact, I nearly chose to opt out and take my number off the list. If I show up to work, and see we're on strike, I'll put my trip bag back in my car, and grab a sign! The only SMS we need is......ON STRIKE! Not testing, testing, testing, or the sky is falling, or wolf wolf wolf. We know the company is seeing these messages, and if there is an attempt to show management we are about to walk; it only worked once for me! Fool me once.....shame on you.....fool me twice ( or daily ) shame on me for letting you. I'm not responding to the next SMS unless its the real deal.
#2286
If any union leaders are viewing; lets stop with the urgent messages! We are all ready; we are all prepared; we have all notified our spouses; we have all either set up our cell phones or not. Those who have, have responded; those who haven't responded, we will likely see crossing our picket line and using an excuse of not getting the message. I for one, don't need any further urgent messages telling me to wait by my phone. As a matter of fact, I nearly chose to opt out and take my number off the list. If I show up to work, and see we're on strike, I'll put my trip bag back in my car, and grab a sign! The only SMS we need is......ON STRIKE! Not testing, testing, testing, or the sky is falling, or wolf wolf wolf. We know the company is seeing these messages, and if there is an attempt to show management we are about to walk; it only worked once for me! Fool me once.....shame on you.....fool me twice ( or daily ) shame on me for letting you. I'm not responding to the next SMS unless its the real deal.
If you have questions or concerns about the process and why things are happing please bring them up to a union representative or contact one of the three EXCO members they will respond.
All pilots need to keep in mind everything we due as a group or as individuals is highly visible right now. Anything you have to say that may shed even the slightest negative light on the union leaders or the process should be discussed with your union leadership not on a public forum.
If it is not something that bothers you enough to talk to your union reps about then keep it to yourself.
#2287
Well, great to see that a public forum is only public if its what you want to hear! You've just convinced me I was right! I am not the only one who is tired of the numerous URGENT messages. I may just be the only one who put it on here. But OK, now you have a scapegoat to point to if the solidarity begins to drop. Just blame me! Oh, and additionally, I'll be on the picket line instead of flying a trip.....but I'll just wait until I see it at the airport. I'm done being told to wait by my phone. You see, I've been on reserve long enough, and the only time I need to wait by my phone is during my reserve availability period.
#2288
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: 7th green
Posts: 4,378
Gordo,
Never violate APC groupthink.
Never violate APC groupthink.
#2289
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 390
Well, great to see that a public forum is only public if its what you want to hear! You've just convinced me I was right! I am not the only one who is tired of the numerous URGENT messages. I may just be the only one who put it on here. But OK, now you have a scapegoat to point to if the solidarity begins to drop. Just blame me! Oh, and additionally, I'll be on the picket line instead of flying a trip.....but I'll just wait until I see it at the airport. I'm done being told to wait by my phone. You see, I've been on reserve long enough, and the only time I need to wait by my phone is during my reserve availability period.
#2290
Well, great to see that a public forum is only public if its what you want to hear! You've just convinced me I was right! I am not the only one who is tired of the numerous URGENT messages. I may just be the only one who put it on here. But OK, now you have a scapegoat to point to if the solidarity begins to drop. Just blame me! Oh, and additionally, I'll be on the picket line instead of flying a trip.....but I'll just wait until I see it at the airport. I'm done being told to wait by my phone. You see, I've been on reserve long enough, and the only time I need to wait by my phone is during my reserve availability period.
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