Xbone

9th Circuit will either rule in our favor, or they will rule against us, or they will defer. And they will do so, on judge(s) time. That math equals one good a$$ whooping.

tyler durden

When the company and the union met with the NMB this last round it was not with the board members, it was with the staffers. That should have been a strong indication that a decision was not going to be made at that point. This next round is reportedly going to pit management against the union in a traditional "show us your cards" format. It is anyone's guess what will happen from there but I believe in the consistent incompetence of our management. If they are allowed to return to the negotiating table, it will be with much more scrutiny and oversight then the charade that is taking place up until now. Worst case, the company will continue to flounder and a proffer will be issued shortly. It is not uncommon historically that a proffer is issued on the second or subsequent application. The NMB tends to follow its mandate of mediation and will make every effort to bring parties together. But when they see strikes, national negative media coverage, and a management that disregards the law and the and NMB's guidance, that will change. JMO

tyler durden

The Q and A letter that was sent out explained our legal counsel's position on this. The Norris- LaGuardia Act prohibits judges from interfering in status quo strikes. I guess we will have to wait and see, but my bet is on our legal counsel, which I hear is among the best labor attorneys in the country.

Xbone

He is the only entity that stands between us and the F&H wolf pack.

Xbone

The funny thing is, this can all go away tomorrow. And we can get back to starring at the nmb. All the company has to do. Is abide by the pwr. It’s got to be a cheaper course of action? They have chosen to poke the tiger. Sounds like an overzealous ideology, against what?

The Chow

I realize a federal judge shouldn't have jurisdiction, but indulge me for a moment.

Since 9/11/01 we've had a federal government
spy on its citizens for our own safety

Run weapons to drug dealers in Mexico resulting in the death of at
least one border patrol agent

Use the IRS to target opposition groups,
Blame a terrorist attack in Lybia on a video no one saw
Have the former Secretary of State use her own email server for convenience and many more things I'm forgetting. So forgive me if I'm skeptical that a federal judge will restrain themselves and state they don't have the power to intervene.

Hopefully I'm wrong. Time will tell.

In Unity

The Chow

tailendcharlie

I put little faith in judges, attorneys, the legal system in general; living through the AW/US debacle taught me that.

You could draw a judge who soesn't really "get it" or one who's having a bad day. Your attorney might get zero sleep the night before. The number of tines a "can't miss" somehow went the other way is astonishing.

Crossing my fingers, but skeptical too.

eagleatr

One thing management here is really good at is being dishonest. They lie to the FAA, the investment community, the employees, and anyone else they come in contact with.

EATME

what are we waiting for?

ManFlex

You think AS is a peer of Delta/AA/United? You're profitable much like Spirit, but you're also a minor player like Spirit. You'd be allowed to walk with no PEB as well. Just thought I'd chime in.