Allegiant Air
#131
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,459
Maybe a better question. How many hours does the low seniority reserve guy average in a month?
Not trying to make any point - single days off, split from each other must be hard. I'm just trying to get a feel for how badly one gets abused.
#132
It really varies form base to base on reserve. Small base like BLI not bad. Florida you really can be used in all bases regardless of which one you are based in. Reserve really is the same regardless of seniority, due to an average flight time call out process. The pilot on reserve with the least hours flown for that period is first out.
#133
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
LAS MD-80 reserve is a death sentence due to covering everything west of the Mississippi. Florida 80 reserve isn't much better as you will be spending much of your time on the Turnpike in a rental car.
#134
I've been on reserve at a regional for over 2 years in my past before coming here. As I came online everyone said lookout it's worse at Allegiant than a regional. I didn't think that was possible. It is.
It's not that you get called out every day like the regionals, it's that when you do get called it could be for anything. You'll likely adjust your life that you're home every night. Then the phone rings and you're off to MIA to do a test flight and Part 91 it back to LAS the same day. Then they're short on LAS reserves so you sit there on reserve for two days. The entire time your wife that agreed to move to Florida to be home with you every night asks when you'll get back.
Then you get back to Florida and get one day off. Then your phone rings and you're supposed to get a rental car and drive to PGD where there's 166 passengers waiting on you. You fly the turn to some 100' wide runway in the winter that's out of Type 4 fluid and deice at the end of the runway. Then you get into PGD and drive back home to return the rental car. Get your 9 hours of rest and you're on call again. Except this time they call you to put you back on rest for 8 hours because there's no afternoon reserves and they need you to fly a trip that leaves at 4pm and gets home at 11pm. Then the bids come out and you're TDY to another base for next month. Your wife asks why you're not home to help with the kids... and how is she supposed to buy groceries when you only bring home $2200/mo after taxes your first year?
There's a 70 hour guarantee for all line and reserve lines. The pay is the same flying your 70 hour line as being on reserve but when all the line values are at 70 hours NO ONE will bid reserve for the same pay. That speaks volumes right there.
I never feared my phone like I did on reserve at Allegiant. Holding a line is actually a really good place to be. Just realize that as a newhire that line is likely to be in 2016 or 2017.
It's not that you get called out every day like the regionals, it's that when you do get called it could be for anything. You'll likely adjust your life that you're home every night. Then the phone rings and you're off to MIA to do a test flight and Part 91 it back to LAS the same day. Then they're short on LAS reserves so you sit there on reserve for two days. The entire time your wife that agreed to move to Florida to be home with you every night asks when you'll get back.
Then you get back to Florida and get one day off. Then your phone rings and you're supposed to get a rental car and drive to PGD where there's 166 passengers waiting on you. You fly the turn to some 100' wide runway in the winter that's out of Type 4 fluid and deice at the end of the runway. Then you get into PGD and drive back home to return the rental car. Get your 9 hours of rest and you're on call again. Except this time they call you to put you back on rest for 8 hours because there's no afternoon reserves and they need you to fly a trip that leaves at 4pm and gets home at 11pm. Then the bids come out and you're TDY to another base for next month. Your wife asks why you're not home to help with the kids... and how is she supposed to buy groceries when you only bring home $2200/mo after taxes your first year?
There's a 70 hour guarantee for all line and reserve lines. The pay is the same flying your 70 hour line as being on reserve but when all the line values are at 70 hours NO ONE will bid reserve for the same pay. That speaks volumes right there.
I never feared my phone like I did on reserve at Allegiant. Holding a line is actually a really good place to be. Just realize that as a newhire that line is likely to be in 2016 or 2017.
Last edited by labbats; 09-10-2013 at 01:37 PM.
#135
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
The running joke from my new hire class is, “Home every night!” Not. I agree it is the absolute worse reserve system, ever. I too have sat reserve at a regional. Reserve at G4 is constant randomness, on a daily basis. On reserve at my regional, if I was called out on a four day, I was done with crew scheduling. Like a minnie line holder. Then days off afterwards. That’s more than one day off.
No work rules. FARs are it. I’m actually looking forward to January. It will be hilarious to watch. A new software is in the works, to handle 117. It will undoubtedly be a cluster. Crew service personnel will be short-circuiting like crazy. I’m going to love helping re-educate these fine, diligent professionals.
No work rules. FARs are it. I’m actually looking forward to January. It will be hilarious to watch. A new software is in the works, to handle 117. It will undoubtedly be a cluster. Crew service personnel will be short-circuiting like crazy. I’m going to love helping re-educate these fine, diligent professionals.
#137
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Not to mention, new hires will be entering this company at one of the lowest pilot morale points in its history. Negotiations are going very slowly and it is abundantly clear that the company is not bargaining in good faith. Most of us expect to go to mediation before the year is over. If you do decide to take the class, there will be a day when our IBT reps come in to talk to you. Please don't roll your eyes at them while recounting how the union at your last carrier "screwed you". Listen to them as they have been here and know how this management team works. I was never inherently a "pro-union" person, but this company converted me. Many others have a similar story. Caveat Emptor.......
#138
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 69
Sad state of affairs, sounds like it 'could' be a great place to work.
#139
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
Good Union. Bad Union. Don’t care. This place needs a contract. That’s how adults do business. You didn’t buy your car, house, etc., without a contract. Yet g4 management expects us to operate like charities. Happy to take what they give us, at their discretion.
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