The Chow

Does anyone know the details of the Spirit strike? How long were they negotiating? When were they released and why did the NMB release them when Republic has been negotiating since '08?

It's obvious our management fears not a strike so that's why I'm curious.

The Chow

I just saw that the person who started the other thread about staying at Allegiant or going to JetBlue is no longer on the seniority list.

Uncle Wurmy

Read the Spirit of NKS thread from about page 100 or so forward. A lot of the same things that they went through during the 6 months or so leading up to the strike are being played out/have already been played out at G4.

CLMP

While our management prides themselves on being "different" when it comes to revenue generation, the difference stops there. They are actually quite horrible at dealing with employees. Any anti-labor communication that we receive is ripped directly out of the Ford & Harrison playbook. I'm not sure if they even know how little effort it would have taken to keep their 3 employee groups from unionizing. The vote for the pilots was actually very narrow in favor of IBT. Fast forward to today. They've managed to alienate the 40% who voted NO and turned them right around. It's now 98%+ in favor of shutting this industry cancer down. You don't get those numbers by having ANY positive employee relations. They could have negotiated in good faith and we probably would have signed a contract with industry standard (maybe even a bit less) provisions. That's all out the window now. We want it all now. It's not just about money anymore.

SpeedTaped

What are the chances of landing in Central Florida out of training SFB or PIE? MD or Airbus? How often have vacancy notices been coming out to allow moving into another base?

Vegaspilot

Lately it's been into both aircraft. AB in PIE, SFB and IWA and 80 in all FL bases (except FLL now...going all AB) and even LAS and IWA. But if you get the 80 there's a high chance you'll end up in the VDB (virtual domicile base). Bids are now run quarterly. But it can and does change so it could be more often or less.

SpeedTaped

Would you expand on the virtual domicile base? I am not sure I understand. What is the call out time on reserve?
Thanks

Vegaspilot

It's been talked about on prior pages, but in a nut shell you are TDY based. The tried calling it HOM base for a while until we all started calling it the homeless base. Each month they put out where there is a need for TDY pilots. The VDB guys then bid on where they want to go in seniority order. After the award you then bid your system seniority in the base you're awarded. The company pays for your hotel and a rental car per pilot if the hotel doesn't have a shuttle. If they do its one car per two pilots. You're on your own to get home during the month. And with our schedules it will be tough to impossible. Not sure if you get 24/7 per diem or not since you're technically in base. Or at least I can see them trying to make that argument. At the end of the month they'll positive space you to your next assignment. So you're basically on the road indefinitely.

Call out is 90 minutes to the airport parking lot.

Xbone

Someone help me out here, these are the kind of numbers amr is voting on: 1yr $75/hr, 2nd yr fo 118/hr, 12 yr 777 ca $293/hr. I don’t know the details of course, but we be getting concessions!

Vegaspilot

I saw the numbers they turned down for Group II aircraft which includes the 80. 12 year CA was around $225 and I think third or fourth year FO was $130ish. I think it's safe to say that most guys are now wanting to shoot for those.