Allegiant to Lay Off 170 LAS workers in May
03-02-2011, 04:23 PM
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BINGO! Agree 100%. The cost of shipping goes up, then the price of the product goes up as well. Why can stores raise the price of eggs and bread, but airlines can't?
That was the question asked and I was supply an answer that eggs, bread and fuel oil are different.
I'm glad your airline is profitable and I'm sorry people are losing their jobs. However, if you will look, I bet this new company is owned by someone in management; ie. CEO, President or Board of Directors. This is the new business model, cut health care cost, liability insurance, profit sharing, retirement, workers comp, ss taxes, payroll taxes, state and federal taxes. It's immoral but until congress or the SEC changes the laws, it's the way it is.
BINGO! Agree 100%. The cost of shipping goes up, then the price of the product goes up as well. Why can stores raise the price of eggs and bread, but airlines can't?
That was the question asked and I was supply an answer that eggs, bread and fuel oil are different.
I'm glad your airline is profitable and I'm sorry people are losing their jobs. However, if you will look, I bet this new company is owned by someone in management; ie. CEO, President or Board of Directors. This is the new business model, cut health care cost, liability insurance, profit sharing, retirement, workers comp, ss taxes, payroll taxes, state and federal taxes. It's immoral but until congress or the SEC changes the laws, it's the way it is.
03-02-2011, 05:41 PM
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Airlines can pass it on to the consumers by raising future ticket prices to cover past purchases by others, but which airline is going to do that when no one else is? That is the problem.
To institute a "fluctuating fare" is absurd. Maybe you don't have a problem with it, but I certainly would not buy a ticket without knowing the actual price it is going to cost. Not to mention there is too much wiggle room in there for dishonest management, who could "claim" through various means that the expenses are up, to charge just a bit more. But what airline has dishonest management?
03-02-2011, 06:04 PM
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Allegiant management announced yesterday that all company employed ground, ramp, gate, and ticketing agents will lose their jobs in May. They will then be forced to re-interview for their jobs with the contract company if they want to work at Allegiant. They will also all be taking pay cuts and decreases in benefits at the new company. All of the affected employees were already paid substandard wages and benefits.
Yesterday management held a large meeting with many of the ground personnel, and by the end of it, as I understand, they were lucky to get out of there with the shirts on their backs. I have been told there were unverified reports of undercover police in the crowd who were there to arrest any rowdy protesters. I suspect this will turn very personal in the near future. This could have long lasting rammifications for Allegiant.
Latest word from the inside is that this is Allegiant management's attempt to bust talks about unionizing within the ground personnel groups. None of the affected groups had actually sought union representation, but management suspected they were heading in that direction. This is a clear attempt to circumvent the employee's right to organize with a preemptive attack.
What this means is that nearly 180 loyal Allegiant employees, many who have been here from the beginning and have helped this company become successful will be terminated without just cause.
The flight attendants are the only group who are currently unionized, the dispatchers recently voted against unionization, and the pilots are in an ongoing union drive. There is little doubt that the flight attendants too would have lost their jobs if they were not unionized.
Expect many work disruptions in the near future. I think the company will lose a lot more money than they save with this move.
Yesterday management held a large meeting with many of the ground personnel, and by the end of it, as I understand, they were lucky to get out of there with the shirts on their backs. I have been told there were unverified reports of undercover police in the crowd who were there to arrest any rowdy protesters. I suspect this will turn very personal in the near future. This could have long lasting rammifications for Allegiant.
Latest word from the inside is that this is Allegiant management's attempt to bust talks about unionizing within the ground personnel groups. None of the affected groups had actually sought union representation, but management suspected they were heading in that direction. This is a clear attempt to circumvent the employee's right to organize with a preemptive attack.
What this means is that nearly 180 loyal Allegiant employees, many who have been here from the beginning and have helped this company become successful will be terminated without just cause.
The flight attendants are the only group who are currently unionized, the dispatchers recently voted against unionization, and the pilots are in an ongoing union drive. There is little doubt that the flight attendants too would have lost their jobs if they were not unionized.
Expect many work disruptions in the near future. I think the company will lose a lot more money than they save with this move.
"A Corporate CEO, a Union Employee and a Teabagger are sitting at a table with a dozen cookies on a plate. The CEO takes 11 of the cookies and says to the teabagger watch out the union guy wants a piece of your cookie"
03-02-2011, 06:32 PM
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I say just tack on a fuel surcharge at the time of purchase. Happened in 2008 when I booked a cruise. Still booked it, didn't have much of a choice it was for a wedding, but I mean I expected it as gas was on the way up.
When you purchase a ticket you get a fuel surcharge based on the cost of gas at that time.
I think this is the next step for airlines.
When you purchase a ticket you get a fuel surcharge based on the cost of gas at that time.
I think this is the next step for airlines.
03-02-2011, 11:10 PM
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So they are going to fire all the ground employes, make them re-interview, and hire them with a huge cut in pay and benefits? Didn't a friendly guy named Lorenzo pull this same stunt a couple years back? This company is wildly profitable, so this move is merely about pure greed for the execs at the top. Absolutely disgusting. 
03-03-2011, 12:09 AM
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My heart goes out to the unfortunates
. I really hope that Karma plays a role for the individuals responsible for such as disgraceful action.
03-03-2011, 04:45 AM
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Why bother with a two-week notice? Just stay home.
03-03-2011, 06:15 AM
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03-03-2011, 06:40 AM
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But people get sick all the time. In fact, I just got sick a few days ago; so did quite a few other employees. It's been going around here at Allegiant and managment just held a meeting with the many of those losing their job in a relatively small room.
It would be a shame, but that many people getting sick could shut down the airline for a while.
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