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Old 03-02-2011, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
This is EXACTLY what happened at Midwest Airlines around 2007(?). They literally fired all the hard working, dedicated ramp people, many of which, had years of exemplary service and an incredible record for baggage handling. They were replaced by an avalanche of new hires to the Skyway subsidiary and chaos resulted. In retrospect, it was the canary-in-the-coal mine, of what was to come.
Northwest and their regionals did this too a few years back. Fire the loyal aviation savvy senior guys at some stations and hire brand new chumps at minimum wage with zero aviation experience or respect for aircraft safety to save cash for big cheeses bonuses. The NW guy that was training his replacements told me that in 2 years at his station they only had 1 aircraft damaged by ground crew. The first 4 weeks of the new program with the new guys on the front line there were already 3 aircraft damages at several hundred thousand dollars. There go the savings. Several years worth salary of those senior workers Karma's a beotch
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Fire the loyal aviation savvy senior guys at some stations and hire brand new chumps at minimum wage with zero aviation experience or respect for aircraft safety to save cash for big cheeses bonuses.
Didn't Alaska do something similar in SEA a few years ago?
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:27 PM
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There is a high cost associated with trying to be cheap.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:29 PM
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$$$$ eyed management doesn't realize that cutting costs is like cutting your fingernails...it it good up to a point but then starts doing more damage than good....the blood starts oozing out and really hurts!
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Didn't Alaska do something similar in SEA a few years ago?
Yep and the ramp has never been the same. Penny wise and pound foolish.
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I doubt the rampers will have a hard time finding a job. SWA is quite often short just down the ramp.
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:48 PM
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Allegiant management announced yesterday that all company employed ground, ramp, gate, and ticketing agents will lose their jobs in May. They will then be forced to re-interview for their jobs with the contract company if they want to work at Allegiant. They will also all be taking pay cuts and decreases in benefits at the new company. All of the affected employees were already paid substandard wages and benefits.

Yesterday management held a large meeting with many of the ground personnel, and by the end of it, as I understand, they were lucky to get out of there with the shirts on their backs. I have been told there were unverified reports of undercover police in the crowd who were there to arrest any rowdy protesters. I suspect this will turn very personal in the near future. This could have long lasting rammifications for Allegiant.

Latest word from the inside is that this is Allegiant management's attempt to bust talks about unionizing within the ground personnel groups. None of the affected groups had actually sought union representation, but management suspected they were heading in that direction. This is a clear attempt to circumvent the employee's right to organize with a preemptive attack.

What this means is that nearly 180 loyal Allegiant employees, many who have been here from the beginning and have helped this company become successful will be terminated without just cause.

The flight attendants are the only group who are currently unionized, the dispatchers recently voted against unionization, and the pilots are in an ongoing union drive. There is little doubt that the flight attendants too would have lost their jobs if they were not unionized.

Expect many work disruptions in the near future. I think the company will lose a lot more money than they save with this move.
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Economics Basics: Elasticity



The degree to which a demand or supply curve reacts to a change in price is the curve's elasticity. Elasticity varies among products because some products may be more essential to the consumer. Products that are necessities are more insensitive to price changes because consumers would continue buying these products despite price increases. Conversely, a price increase of a good or service that is considered less of a necessity will deter more consumers because the opportunity cost of buying the product will become too high.
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Originally Posted by 757golf
Economics Basics: Elasticity



The degree to which a demand or supply curve reacts to a change in price is the curve's elasticity. Elasticity varies among products because some products may be more essential to the consumer. Products that are necessities are more insensitive to price changes because consumers would continue buying these products despite price increases. Conversely, a price increase of a good or service that is considered less of a necessity will deter more consumers because the opportunity cost of buying the product will become too high.
And yet they are still the most profitable airline in the country with some of the lowest ticket prices, and their upper management still take home $50 million in bonuses. How's that elasticity for you?
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:17 PM
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Easy for me to say, but I think there should be 170 LAS workers handing in their 2-weeks notices tomorrow. Forget May 3rd, let their managers figure out what to do on March 15th. It is absolutely criminal the way these guys throw around their institutional arrogance.
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