Allegiant 757 spotted
09-08-2010, 06:08 PM
#32
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Let's not forget why the legacy rates are so bad. When those companies went into Chapter 11 and abrogated their Union contracts, they got the judge to IMPOSE the NON-UNION jetBlue narrow body rate in force at the time.
So, yes, non-Union pilots who work cheap depress EVERYONE'S wages.
So, yes, non-Union pilots who work cheap depress EVERYONE'S wages.
09-08-2010, 06:18 PM
#34
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By the way why do people really like this paint job? It looks like something a high schooler would put together in art class.
09-08-2010, 06:36 PM
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- Johnso29 admits he needs spellcheck.
- Johnso29 spells Allegiant the same way it's spelled on the plane.
- TD rags on people for their spelling skills.
- TD spells Allegiant differently than how it's spelled on the airplane.
And Vapor can't spell Allegiant either.
09-08-2010, 06:39 PM
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09-08-2010, 07:25 PM
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09-08-2010, 09:33 PM
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I am not going to get into extreme details, due to my poor grammar I will do everyone a favor and keep it brief...
This is mainly towards Johnso29, slowplay, Fishfreighter, and TD,
Since you guys are comparing Allegiant pay scales to ex-major/legacy pay rates. Why not also include Eastern Air Lines, Pan American World Airways and Braniff International Airways back “in the day.” I read that back in the 60s a captain was making enough to buy a new Cadillac every month. I don't know how much that is in today’s rates, what I do know a new cadi will easily run 40k.
My dad flew a GIII for a 215/k per year. Now he is working with his friend in a construction business...which also happens to be dying out! But at least he is home every night, right?
How many pilots have AA,US Air, UA and other majors laid off? In the 1000s.
How about fleet sizes?
How much flying have legacies given away to regionals?
The answer for G4 for all of the above is ZERO
You guys are comparing a 13 year old airline to companies that have been around 60-70+ years. The only way legacies are surviving right now is by merging with one another. Which is fine, you got to do whatever it takes to survive. At the moment you guys need to worry about protecting your scope and improving your contracts. The ink is finally black instead of red.
Pilots are like nosy neighbors, they love to know what is going on next door they also cant hold back on talking trash. Not to mention they love to look down on others. And I see this every day I fly.
I guess what my point is, stop comparing present with the past. The past is gone! Lets focus on the future.
YouTube - playa hatas ball
Congrats on the 75s guys, continue your hard work and good luck with your growth in the future!
phew, I am glad to get this off my chest
This is mainly towards Johnso29, slowplay, Fishfreighter, and TD,
Since you guys are comparing Allegiant pay scales to ex-major/legacy pay rates. Why not also include Eastern Air Lines, Pan American World Airways and Braniff International Airways back “in the day.” I read that back in the 60s a captain was making enough to buy a new Cadillac every month. I don't know how much that is in today’s rates, what I do know a new cadi will easily run 40k.
My dad flew a GIII for a 215/k per year. Now he is working with his friend in a construction business...which also happens to be dying out! But at least he is home every night, right?
How many pilots have AA,US Air, UA and other majors laid off? In the 1000s.
How about fleet sizes?
How much flying have legacies given away to regionals?
The answer for G4 for all of the above is ZERO
You guys are comparing a 13 year old airline to companies that have been around 60-70+ years. The only way legacies are surviving right now is by merging with one another. Which is fine, you got to do whatever it takes to survive. At the moment you guys need to worry about protecting your scope and improving your contracts. The ink is finally black instead of red.
Pilots are like nosy neighbors, they love to know what is going on next door they also cant hold back on talking trash. Not to mention they love to look down on others. And I see this every day I fly.
I guess what my point is, stop comparing present with the past. The past is gone! Lets focus on the future.
YouTube - playa hatas ball
Congrats on the 75s guys, continue your hard work and good luck with your growth in the future!
phew, I am glad to get this off my chest
09-08-2010, 11:48 PM
#39
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I know the rate for Delta. I'm on 3rd year 73NG pay and I make more than an F.O. at Allegiant would ever make on either a 757 or MD-80. Plus, our Captain rate is almost $20 more an hour. Allegient's per diem is half what we get and your 401k match is only 3%. That's a complete joke! I know regional airlines that have better contracts than Allegiant! Way to go, though, you've got bigger airplanes! Heck... Skywest is a non-union REGIONAL carrier and they've got a better working agreement than Allegiant!
09-08-2010, 11:52 PM
#40
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Ya... congratulations on growing. How about attempting to grow the profession and not just the kind of planes you fly? Who cares if you're flying a 747 if you're making crap money? SJS... that's all it is. We're our own worst enemy.
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