Allegiant 757 spotted
02-17-2012, 11:23 PM
#121
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Some of my best pilot friends are at Allegiant. None of them want a union. Unions do not mean better contracts. Unions mean more fighting between pilots and management. The quality of the contracts generated are mixed.
02-17-2012, 11:36 PM
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How many 2nd year FO's does Delta have??? 0?
You don't compare fleet and seat. You compare your earnings potential at Airline A vs. Airline B.
If someone at Virgin America makes 44, 65, 75/hr, then gets promoted at the start of his 4th year to Captain, and makes 123, 127, 130/hr, he will make an average of $94/hr. If someone does that at Delta, but is an MD88 FO for 6 years, they will make an average of $89/hr. So who is making more money per hour? (Even when I chose one of the "lowest" paying airlines against one of the "highest" paying airlines)
At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is how much money you take home.
You don't compare fleet and seat. You compare your earnings potential at Airline A vs. Airline B.
If someone at Virgin America makes 44, 65, 75/hr, then gets promoted at the start of his 4th year to Captain, and makes 123, 127, 130/hr, he will make an average of $94/hr. If someone does that at Delta, but is an MD88 FO for 6 years, they will make an average of $89/hr. So who is making more money per hour? (Even when I chose one of the "lowest" paying airlines against one of the "highest" paying airlines)
At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is how much money you take home.
02-18-2012, 03:28 AM
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As of right now the 757 guys are home every night. They are based in LAS and do turns just like the MD80. When Hawaii starts up they are talking about doing a "heavy" crew where you fly one way and deadhead the other, so they will still be home every night. Although most people realize that if overnights are to start at Allegiant the 757 is where they will be.
02-18-2012, 03:31 AM
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02-18-2012, 05:06 AM
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An in-house association or in-house union is the way to go. More control by the pilots, true leadership regarding all aspects of pilot and management relationship. Better control of $$$ spent too.
02-18-2012, 06:15 AM
#126
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How many 2nd year FO's does Delta have??? 0?
You don't compare fleet and seat. You compare your earnings potential at Airline A vs. Airline B.
If someone at Virgin America makes 44, 65, 75/hr, then gets promoted at the start of his 4th year to Captain, and makes 123, 127, 130/hr, he will make an average of $94/hr. If someone does that at Delta, but is an MD88 FO for 6 years, they will make an average of $89/hr. So who is making more money per hour? (Even when I chose one of the "lowest" paying airlines against one of the "highest" paying airlines)
At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is how much money you take home.
You don't compare fleet and seat. You compare your earnings potential at Airline A vs. Airline B.
If someone at Virgin America makes 44, 65, 75/hr, then gets promoted at the start of his 4th year to Captain, and makes 123, 127, 130/hr, he will make an average of $94/hr. If someone does that at Delta, but is an MD88 FO for 6 years, they will make an average of $89/hr. So who is making more money per hour? (Even when I chose one of the "lowest" paying airlines against one of the "highest" paying airlines)
At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is how much money you take home.
FYI, Delta has around 300 pilots on 2nd year longevity right now and quite a few of those pilots are 757/767 FOs.
02-18-2012, 07:53 AM
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If they decide to set the schedules up that way monthly schedules should be pretty nice. A HNL-BLI and HNL-LAS turn should be about 10 hrs, so 8 days on would be 80 hrs. I personally think they will do overnights in the 757 which is why I have no desire to leave the MD80. But, we will find out soon enough!
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