Allegiant Purchased 6 757's???
07-18-2009, 08:19 PM
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I'm not quite sure how an experienced pilot can better determine his "worth" over a youngster, or how you can think that a pilot is "worth" more than what an airline will pay??
My understanding of what a pilot is worth is as simple as finding employment at an airline, that will compensate you the most. If a pilot is unwilling to fly an airplane for the offered rate, then that job is not "worth" it to the pilot.... not the other way around, as in "I'm worth more than that". Because the truth is, you're not worth more than that. If you were, then they would pay it. Experience doesn't mean much in this industry (overseas flying can offer a little more for your experience, but.. well, it's overseas). Luck, timing and the company's success are bigger factors than experience in this industry. Everyone, after a few years, has all the experience they need to get hired at most airlines... just hope you pick the right one.
My understanding of what a pilot is worth is as simple as finding employment at an airline, that will compensate you the most. If a pilot is unwilling to fly an airplane for the offered rate, then that job is not "worth" it to the pilot.... not the other way around, as in "I'm worth more than that". Because the truth is, you're not worth more than that. If you were, then they would pay it. Experience doesn't mean much in this industry (overseas flying can offer a little more for your experience, but.. well, it's overseas). Luck, timing and the company's success are bigger factors than experience in this industry. Everyone, after a few years, has all the experience they need to get hired at most airlines... just hope you pick the right one.
07-19-2009, 05:08 PM
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07-21-2009, 07:36 AM
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Supposedly when AMR bought TWA and took TWA's B757's, they were not 180min ETOPS certified. I had heard DAL eventually bought those B757's (About 14 of them), and is flying them now.
For any DAL guys out there, did the company try to retro those to make them 180min ETOPS, or leave them 'plain jane' as they were??
For any DAL guys out there, did the company try to retro those to make them 180min ETOPS, or leave them 'plain jane' as they were??
07-21-2009, 10:07 PM
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Just came across this one...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(US-Airways)/Boeing-757-225/1554995/L/
Airways putting away 75's?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(US-Airways)/Boeing-757-225/1554995/L/
Airways putting away 75's?
That was one of the three "teenagers" (913,914,915) that were original Eastern 757s and were not capable of ETOPS. They were wired differently and had a lightweight gear. The max TOW was 230k, versus the 240, 250 and 255k ETOPs birds the West has.
Cacticrew has it right. It was about 1 million each for AWA to certify the jets for 180 ETOPS. The wiring is there in most 757s to take the HMG and there are a few other items that have been mentioned.
Allegient could do it in a year, if their POI is on board. If Jim Carr is still DO he will have gone through this before at AWA. We were supposed to have ETOPs back in the late 90s, a few years after the 747s went away. They did the proving runs back and forth to JFK out of PHX and LAS but in the end they did not want to commit to the MX requirements. Once Parker came in in 2001 he ressurrected the ETOPs program to go to Hawaii. That is the real cost, MX. You have to keep the jets up to ETOPS specs even if they are just going BLI to LAS. Allegient will have to get their line MX up to speed.
07-22-2009, 04:55 AM
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