Allegiant Purchased 6 757's???
07-13-2009, 09:47 AM
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Using an outsourced heavy maintenance that is approved doesn't help them with the line maintenance requirements. The mechanics still have to be trained and manuals have to be written and approved for the routine maintenance that occurs on a daily basis.
07-13-2009, 10:19 AM
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That really isn't a large or expensive feat. The Boeing and engine manufactuerer AMM's, IPC's, FIM's and WDM's are already FAA certified as well as the CMM's for various components. Of course each operator has to incorporate some changes in the manuals, taylored to their operation. The most expensive part is training the mechanics for that aircraft. to keep than as inexpensive as possible you send to trainers to Boeing to take Boeing's class on the 757, then have them build a training program that can be approved by Boeing and the FSDO and be taught by the trainers in a classrom setting. That's how most airlines do it.
07-13-2009, 10:23 AM
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That really isn't a large or expensive feat. The Boeing and engine manufactuerer AMM's, IPC's, FIM's and WDM's are already FAA certified as well as the CMM's for various components. Of course each operator has to incorporate some changes in the manuals, taylored to their operation. The most expensive part is training the mechanics for that aircraft. to keep than as inexpensive as possible you send to trainers to Boeing to take Boeing's class on the 757, then have them build a training program that can be approved by Boeing and the FSDO and be taught by the trainers in a classrom setting. That's how most airlines do it.
Now tell me how easy it is to obtain AQP on a fleet type.
07-13-2009, 12:10 PM
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Does anybody have any other information about this? I was told they bought 6 757's from Thomson in the U.K. and that the airplanes are sitting at I believe Goodyear in Arizona. The price tag on each 75 was estimated at around $8 million. Seeing how Allegiant is a public company the purchases would have to made public as well, but if the CEO bought them and put them in his name and not the company then he could keep it a "secret" or atleast try. Another rumore in this ongoing "mystery, if you will" is that they are planning on keeping the 75's seprate from Allegiant in other words flying them under another name. Lots of twist and turns in this story but if you have something to add please do so im all ears.
07-13-2009, 01:02 PM
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Actually there was rumor before about Allegiant interested in Primaris who already had ETOPS, now they are Chapter 7, can they actually transfer the certificate?
07-14-2009, 06:55 AM
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ETOPS-equipped 757s have more safety equipment, more system redundancies. They have a Hydraulic Motor-Generator as an electrical system backup, higher-power and more reliable APU and better Class D cargo fire-fighting system for overwater. The maintenance program is much more detailed and most everything on the jet has to work to fly 180-minute ETOPS, ie Hawaii.
07-14-2009, 08:41 AM
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"B757200ER" nailed it well....
Supposedly when AMR bought TWA and took TWA's B757's, they were not 180min ETOPS certified. I had heard DAL eventually bought those B757's (About 14 of them), and is flying them now.
For any DAL guys out there, did the company try to retro those to make them 180min ETOPS, or leave them 'plain jane' as they were?? Reason why I ask was trying to get even a ball park idea of how much a company would pay a pop to retro them with "HDG's" and Class D suppression systems to make them usable under the 180mins ETOPS??
Thanks for any info.....SC
Supposedly when AMR bought TWA and took TWA's B757's, they were not 180min ETOPS certified. I had heard DAL eventually bought those B757's (About 14 of them), and is flying them now.
For any DAL guys out there, did the company try to retro those to make them 180min ETOPS, or leave them 'plain jane' as they were?? Reason why I ask was trying to get even a ball park idea of how much a company would pay a pop to retro them with "HDG's" and Class D suppression systems to make them usable under the 180mins ETOPS??
Thanks for any info.....SC
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07-14-2009, 12:32 PM
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ETOPS-equipped 757s have more safety equipment, more system redundancies. They have a Hydraulic Motor-Generator as an electrical system backup, higher-power and more reliable APU and better Class D cargo fire-fighting system for overwater. The maintenance program is much more detailed and most everything on the jet has to work to fly 180-minute ETOPS, ie Hawaii.
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