Allegiant info needed
10-30-2007, 07:15 PM
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Allegiant info needed
I was just offered the job. How are the schedules? How is life for commuters? Do you anticipate the upgrade time to increase or remain the same? how long can I expect to be on reserve? Currently I work for Eagle. I am about 250 numbers from captain but at the rate Eagle upgrades this may take another 12 months.
10-31-2007, 08:11 AM
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Commuting to Allegiant can be tough. I was there from Feb to Sept of this year. I kinda wish I would have stayed. The big thing is if you have to commute make sure you get a good place to stay. I stayed with a college friend and did not mind it at all, I was comfortable. Although the biggest drawback was that I was still only home 1 1/2 -2 days most weeks. I would guess new hires could expect one of the new bases opening in the end of the year.
Reserve can be slow if you are stuck on it for a while. 2 or 3 of the months I was online I only flew 20-25 hours. Great if you live in base but not so hot if you commute and just sit there.
Good Luck!
Reserve can be slow if you are stuck on it for a while. 2 or 3 of the months I was online I only flew 20-25 hours. Great if you live in base but not so hot if you commute and just sit there.
Good Luck!
11-09-2007, 11:24 AM
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I park at TPA and the van drivers are always telling me that they see Allegiant guys commuting out to other bases... even though there's a base in PIE?
Can anybody elaborate on this? I wanted to know if the PIE base is really senior or what since I live there.
Can anybody elaborate on this? I wanted to know if the PIE base is really senior or what since I live there.
11-09-2007, 12:09 PM
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Allegiant
I worked there for almost two years. It is very very difficult to commute to and from Allegiant because most of your flying is day trips, although that was and is still changing. There is no union or real representation for the pilot group, they have a group called AAPAG that sort of asks the company for pay increases and more benefits and they ususally get something but not a whole lot. The problem is not so pay so much as the company does all kinds of underhanded things like sending you in a plane that is not fixed or has broken equipment that is neccesary for flight. Not to mention they have no problem having you hang around at the airport waiting for whatever dispatches/scheduling/mgt bidding is that day. It also has people in scheduling dispatch etc that still think it is a 3 airplane operation and don't have a clue where most of their pilots and airplanes are or what they are doing. I am sure a few of the AAPAG guys will get on here and tell you how great it is but they are all senior Capts in LAS and drink the kool-aid regulary, be wary of them. It's not great for schedules and they do open a close bases pretty often. When I worked there I thought about moving but it is a risk. LAS is to senior to hold as a Capt and so are Reno and Laghlin. Orlando is also pretty senior for capts, PIE and FLL and Tunica are junior from what I understand. Tunica and SFB-orlando both require 35-55 minute drives to a real airport to commute out of. FLL is difficult for commuting unless you live on the east coast. PIE also requires a drive to TPA to commute. Upgrade for me was almost two years and I really enjoyed my time at Allegiant. However, I don't think I would go there now. Their are regional jobs that are simliar in pay with much better work rules. express jet comes to mind etc. Don't be fooled by the pay rates many of our second and third year capts make 50-75k per year because there are no real work rules to protect you. For example you get block or better on the day not on the leg so it's rare you ever go over block for the day. Also their is no sick time only PTO and scheduling decided wether or not to pay you PTO for it. Otherwise you just lose pay.
Flying their was very scary at times, I had one engine failure and one high speed abort(oil press) and one hyd failure and three air returns in the 1200 hours I flew there. The airplanes are poorly maintained and ignored a lot of the time. I know of two captains who had to take a month off because they were frazzled from flying at Allegiant. Dispatch was so bad that I and many other pilots use flight watch in flight for WX updates, it's almost impossible to get in touch with company in flight most of the time. When I first started there it was better because the operation was much smaller now it seems to be getting worse from what I understand. Like the previous posters said it's ok if you build some MD-80 time and get out ASAP that is what I and many others have done.
Just my 2c
Flying their was very scary at times, I had one engine failure and one high speed abort(oil press) and one hyd failure and three air returns in the 1200 hours I flew there. The airplanes are poorly maintained and ignored a lot of the time. I know of two captains who had to take a month off because they were frazzled from flying at Allegiant. Dispatch was so bad that I and many other pilots use flight watch in flight for WX updates, it's almost impossible to get in touch with company in flight most of the time. When I first started there it was better because the operation was much smaller now it seems to be getting worse from what I understand. Like the previous posters said it's ok if you build some MD-80 time and get out ASAP that is what I and many others have done.
Just my 2c
11-09-2007, 03:34 PM
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I worked there for almost two years. It is very very difficult to commute to and from Allegiant because most of your flying is day trips, although that was and is still changing. There is no union or real representation for the pilot group, they have a group called AAPAG that sort of asks the company for pay increases and more benefits and they ususally get something but not a whole lot. The problem is not so pay so much as the company does all kinds of underhanded things like sending you in a plane that is not fixed or has broken equipment that is neccesary for flight. Not to mention they have no problem having you hang around at the airport waiting for whatever dispatches/scheduling/mgt bidding is that day. It also has people in scheduling dispatch etc that still think it is a 3 airplane operation and don't have a clue where most of their pilots and airplanes are or what they are doing. I am sure a few of the AAPAG guys will get on here and tell you how great it is but they are all senior Capts in LAS and drink the kool-aid regulary, be wary of them. It's not great for schedules and they do open a close bases pretty often. When I worked there I thought about moving but it is a risk. LAS is to senior to hold as a Capt and so are Reno and Laghlin. Orlando is also pretty senior for capts, PIE and FLL and Tunica are junior from what I understand. Tunica and SFB-orlando both require 35-55 minute drives to a real airport to commute out of. FLL is difficult for commuting unless you live on the east coast. PIE also requires a drive to TPA to commute. Upgrade for me was almost two years and I really enjoyed my time at Allegiant. However, I don't think I would go there now. Their are regional jobs that are simliar in pay with much better work rules. express jet comes to mind etc. Don't be fooled by the pay rates many of our second and third year capts make 50-75k per year because there are no real work rules to protect you. For example you get block or better on the day not on the leg so it's rare you ever go over block for the day. Also their is no sick time only PTO and scheduling decided wether or not to pay you PTO for it. Otherwise you just lose pay.
Flying their was very scary at times, I had one engine failure and one high speed abort(oil press) and one hyd failure and three air returns in the 1200 hours I flew there. The airplanes are poorly maintained and ignored a lot of the time. I know of two captains who had to take a month off because they were frazzled from flying at Allegiant. Dispatch was so bad that I and many other pilots use flight watch in flight for WX updates, it's almost impossible to get in touch with company in flight most of the time. When I first started there it was better because the operation was much smaller now it seems to be getting worse from what I understand. Like the previous posters said it's ok if you build some MD-80 time and get out ASAP that is what I and many others have done.
Just my 2c
Flying their was very scary at times, I had one engine failure and one high speed abort(oil press) and one hyd failure and three air returns in the 1200 hours I flew there. The airplanes are poorly maintained and ignored a lot of the time. I know of two captains who had to take a month off because they were frazzled from flying at Allegiant. Dispatch was so bad that I and many other pilots use flight watch in flight for WX updates, it's almost impossible to get in touch with company in flight most of the time. When I first started there it was better because the operation was much smaller now it seems to be getting worse from what I understand. Like the previous posters said it's ok if you build some MD-80 time and get out ASAP that is what I and many others have done.
Just my 2c
01-19-2008, 12:16 PM
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Their are regional jobs that are simliar in pay with much better work rules. express jet comes to mind etc. Don't be fooled by the pay rates many of our second and third year capts make 50-75k per year because there are no real work rules to protect you. For example you get block or better on the day not on the leg so it's rare you ever go over block for the day. Also their is no sick time only PTO and scheduling decided wether or not to pay you PTO for it. Otherwise you just lose pay.
Third year Captain here and made more than 30K over your top end there....
Yea... No sick time here. That's because you can call in sick and you won't get less than guarantee. Oh yea... and scheduling doesn't decide if you're going to get paid PTO.
We're glad you're gone...
01-19-2008, 01:33 PM
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What a joke.....
Third year Captain here and made more than 30K over your top end there....
Yea... No sick time here. That's because you can call in sick and you won't get less than guarantee. Oh yea... and scheduling doesn't decide if you're going to get paid PTO.
We're glad you're gone...
Third year Captain here and made more than 30K over your top end there....
Yea... No sick time here. That's because you can call in sick and you won't get less than guarantee. Oh yea... and scheduling doesn't decide if you're going to get paid PTO.
We're glad you're gone...
Is it better than Colgan?
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