overspeed

I wouldn't mind hearing another view point then...Let us know.

daytonaflyer

Here's a pay comparison I did between Allegiant and some other airlines on a different site. It should give you an idea of what is possible.

Time to look at the bigger picture.
I'll compare Allegiant, United, NWA, Delta, and NetJets over a 10 year period.
-Based on 80 hours/month
-Using the most junior airplane
(83.3 hours/month=1000 hours/year)

Allegiant Air (upgrade currently at 1 year)
FO year
1. $39,360
Captain years
2. $81,600
3. $86,400
4. $92,160
5. $96,960
6. $100,800
7. $102,720
8. $104,640
9. $106,560
10. $108,480

Ten Year Total=$919,680
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United Airlines (upgrade currently 10 years)
FO years
1. $30,720
2. $48,000
3. $70,080
4. $74,880
5. $76,800
6. $78,720
7. $80,640
8. $82,560
9. $83,520
Captain years
10. $124,800

Ten Year Total=$750,720
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Northwest Airlines (upgrade currently 10 years)
FO years
1. $28,800
2. $54,720
3. $66,240
4. $68,160
5. $70,080
6. $71,040
7. $72,960
8. $74,880
9. $76,800
Captain years
10. $117,120

Ten Year Total=$700,800
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Delta Airlines (upgrade currently 8 years)
FO years
1. $47,040
2. $65,280
3. $75,840
4. $77,760
5. $80,640
6. $82,560
7. $84,480
Captain years
8. $128,640
9. $129,600
10. $131,520

Ten Year Total=$903,360
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NetJets (new TA, 7on/7off schedule, estimated upgrade at 5 years)

FO years
1. $56,875
2. $58,866
3. $63,738
4. $65,969
Captain years
5. $100,408
6. $103,923
7. $107,560
8. $111,324
9. $115,221
10. $119,254

Ten Year Total=$903,138

Of course everybody's experience will vary. Upgrades are still averaging around the 1 year mark. Two of my friends are in upgrade class right now in their 13th month of employment. One was offered it at 12 months, but got sick and couldn't make that class. It might slow some due to the recession fears, but probably not more than 6-8 months.

FlyByCable

The numbers don't lie. Allegiant is the obvious choice for career airline pilots.

johnso29

I am going to assume you are being sarcastic.

1013dot25hPa

I have an interview at the end of this month and have a couple of questions:

1. What does a typical month look like for a 1st year FO? I know most trips are out & backs. Is it something like 6 on 3 or 4 off and back 6 on?

2. How many pilots are you hiring?

3. More airplanes expected on the property this year?

4. Is it relatively easy as a 1st year FO to fly over guarantee, ie make extra money?

5. How are the medical, vision, dental bennies?

6. Travel benefits?

7. CASS

8. I know there was talk about providing newhires with accomodation. Did that ever come to fruition?

9. How is the training, indoc, systems, flight training?

10. For you guys/gals that flew glass before Allegiant. What was the transition like during training back to steam gauges?

Thanks and wish me luck!

Short Bus Drive

The big question is, who will be around in 10 years? You don't know...

sqwkvfr

Out of all of the airlines, I think one would be foolish to not rank Allegiant in the top two or three most likely to survive in their present form or in an expended version of their present business model.

Sniper

I'm not so sure. Fuel prices continue to rise and/or stay high, $100/barrel is gonna' be a sustained price soon. The world is running out of oil, and China and India need more of it each day.

In that environment, a company that runs inefficient aircraft (Md-80's are not gas sippers, just ask AA how badly they're hurting now that Boeing and Airbus have postponed the development of a replacement of the 73 and A320 platforms) and low margin travel and charters is not well positioned to weather a continued rise in fuel costs (no premium passengers or expansive network to spread the costs to).

Of course, nobody thought JFK was a good airport to fly out of either in the mid 90's. Now its so popular they want to restrain capacity there. Today's idiot is tomorrow's genius in this industry, it seems. Allegiant could be the next big thing.

daytonaflyer

I'm fairly new, so I can probably answer some of these questions.
1. Depends where you're based. In SFB I would be about 1/2 way up the FO list and could hold a line. In LAS I am near the bottom and will be on reserve for a while. My reserve line is 5 on 3 off, then 5 on 2 off, then 4 on 3 off, etc.

2. One more class of 10 in February, then no more till later this year.

3. Just got 2, probably won't get more until the end of the year.

4. Depends where you're based and how many classes hired after you. In LAS, I can't fly over guarantee. In SFB, I could.

5. About $90/month for everything. I've had good experience with the medical, but haven't used the others yet.

6&7. We have jumpseat agreements with almost every airline I can think of.
We have non-rev agreements with USAir, SWA, Frontier, Airtran, JetBlue, Spirit, other smaller airlines, and some regionals. Still trying for some of the big guys: AA, UAL, CAL, Delta.

8. Not yet. Just $2000/month training pay. Normal pay starts on IOE.

9&10. Training was okay. Some things could have been more thorough, but the tests weren't too hard and the simulator was okay. The instructors are really friendly; as long as you study, they want you to succeed. You do not need to be able to mentally build the airplane with your eyes closed like at some airlines. My favorite saying from ground school was "a predetermined value"; they don't make you memorize tons of worthless numbers like hydraulic relief valve pressures and fuel nozzle pressures.
Lot of profiles and callouts to learn.
It's not really going back to steam gauges. The majority of our airplanes are mostly glass, but older glass with seperate instruments, only some have all steam gauges. I had flown nothing but steam gauges before, so I can't comment on a retro transition.

Don't know if it's true, but heard they are getting more resume's now due to age 65 and the slowing economy and are interviewing mostly higher time applicants (guess 2007 was an anomaly for airline hiring). You really need to want to work at Allegiant to pass the interview. The interviewers really like specifics and they want to hire career pilots. If you live at one of our bases or have familly there, they seem to like that. If you're considering Allegiant as a stepping stone airline or just to get out of a regional job, they probably won't hire you.