IBT Election
11-30-2023, 09:50 AM
#82
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
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Yep. There are certainly things that could change between now and the last day of voting to change my mind. I highly doubt that will happen (less than 5% chance), but sure there are things that could that.
there are negotiations this week. i'm curious to see if progress was made. i imagine there will be some TAs because we all know AR is desperate to get some done.
there are negotiations this week. i'm curious to see if progress was made. i imagine there will be some TAs because we all know AR is desperate to get some done.
11-30-2023, 10:23 AM
#83
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
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I'm sorry but I don't understand. I was simply asking where you found the items the new slate would forsake in order to get the money and a quick deal.
Then you replied above. I'm just wondering where you found the items you listed out before. I was looking at the transparency website and I can't find what you're referring to.
Then you replied above. I'm just wondering where you found the items you listed out before. I was looking at the transparency website and I can't find what you're referring to.
11-30-2023, 10:52 AM
#84
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Position: A320 CA
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I'm sorry but I don't understand. I was simply asking where you found the items the new slate would forsake in order to get the money and a quick deal.
Then you replied above. I'm just wondering where you found the items you listed out before. I was looking at the transparency website and I can't find what you're referring to.
Then you replied above. I'm just wondering where you found the items you listed out before. I was looking at the transparency website and I can't find what you're referring to.
11-30-2023, 11:03 AM
#85
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,011
I'm sorry but I don't understand. I was simply asking where you found the items the new slate would forsake in order to get the money and a quick deal.
Then you replied above. I'm just wondering where you found the items you listed out before. I was looking at the transparency website and I can't find what you're referring to.
Then you replied above. I'm just wondering where you found the items you listed out before. I was looking at the transparency website and I can't find what you're referring to.
11-30-2023, 11:36 AM
#86
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I can't believe you don't know this, but they had the ability to go around the union on the bonus since it was an unpaid bonus. This was going to happen with or without the union support. I didn't understand it at first either, we were losing 2 pilots per day. Look into this a little further.
11-30-2023, 11:43 AM
#87
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Uncomfortable
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A couple of things that I think are pretty big missteps (paying out the bonus, ending assessment, etc) but nothing at all about compromising the new CBA for expediency.
11-30-2023, 11:48 AM
#88
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I can't believe you don't know this, but they had the ability to go around the union on the bonus since it was an unpaid bonus. This was going to happen with or without the union support. I didn't understand it at first either, we were losing 2 pilots per day. Look into this a little further.
you calling it “an unpaid bonus” - what is that? No such thing as an unpaid bonus?
11-30-2023, 11:49 AM
#89
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I have not seen any comments by them where they have said they will give up items to get a contract faster.
A couple of things that I think are pretty big missteps (paying out the bonus, ending assessment, etc) but nothing at all about compromising the new CBA for expediency.
A couple of things that I think are pretty big missteps (paying out the bonus, ending assessment, etc) but nothing at all about compromising the new CBA for expediency.
11-30-2023, 11:50 AM
#90
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dude I’m the one that first said exactly what you are saying. That is why I said AR “endorsed” and he “signed off” on it. But management would not have been able to pay it out unless the union at some point agreed to it. Management can accrue all they want, but they cannot pay outside the contract without the union agreeing to it.
you calling it “an unpaid bonus” - what is that? No such thing as an unpaid bonus?
you calling it “an unpaid bonus” - what is that? No such thing as an unpaid bonus?
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