tom11011

At some point in the next 2 years we will have a new contract. Unless something drastically changes where the company needs to get this done sooner rather then later, I do not think it will happen this year. Pay will be on par with Alaska most likely, but the work rules is what is holding us back from completing a deal. Personally, I think this will be one of the best airlines to work at after the contract.

Bitcoin

No, it's definetly worth considering. The stability here is great, last year the airline made 11% margins which may have been the highest in the industry. We never stopped growing and hired for the whole 9/11 decade including during the 2008 financial crises. Financially speaking we were the best of the worst during the recent pandemic but they did furlough for a couple months to try and crack the union and get concessions. First year pay is rough but there is a retention that makes it 105/hr but that won't be paid until after the new cba. Moral is pretty low right now because of the pay but whenever this new TA hits, this place will be highly desirerable.

dregofsociety

is this true? would certainly have allegiant skyrocket in desireablility. hopefully competition wouldn't be insurmountable as a result though.

G4slumdod

There is one thing for sure if you are thinking about coming to Allegiant, if the company doesn't need you they will be very quick to furlough you. I believe we were the only airline that furloughed pilots during COVID. This company didn't have a problem doing it before and will do it again.

Rando

I've been at a heavily metered regional with West in its name for a few months now, my first 121 experience. I'm considering Allegiant, for the quality of family life and hopefully new contract in the next few years. Would prefer Bellingham as it is closish to family, but Austin and some of the other bases sound like nice places to live and raise a family too. Living close to a small airport in a nice small city sounds like great QOL compared to many other options, and we can weather a year of pay cut if there is more on the horizon. If there's a good pay increase then it seems like a great career destination for someone my age.

I am a little worried that recent hiring slowdown and problems at other LCCs will harm the negotiation at Allegiant, should I be?

Is this nuts? Would I be better off staying at the regional for a few years and getting TPIC? Trying to go to a different LCC?

About me:
Early 40s, married, planning on kids soon
3000+ hours, almost all single pilot VFR PIC. 100 hours 121 SIC, 700 turbine.
Unrestricted ATP
Chief pilot experience, volunteer work
No training failures, one checkride failure, though it was a paperwork issue not directly competency related (this was overseas, in the US it would have been a discontinuance)
DUI 20 years ago

pipercub

Bellingham as an FO is possible right away, CA is very very senior. Small base with very little movement. If you want PNW Alaska is a better option. Union is a dumpster fire right now at Allegiant, this may get the contract done sooner, but more likely could delay. If contract done sooner it will not match other contracts out there. Allegiant can be good if you live in base and have some senority, even senority in a lot of bases you will still see a lot of schedules with Tues, Wed, and Sat off. Junior is not fun varies by base. They plan to Hire a lot yet this year so getting a base of choice as an FO can be easy or gotten fairly quickly. I think some have waited six month for a base. This slow down is not financialy driven so when carriers can get Aircraft they will hire again and it will pick up.

GimmieDaLoot

good: day trips
bad: literally everything else. avoid allegiant like the plague

tailendcharlie

Absolutely second that - go to Alaska if that's an option.
Cautiously optimistic we may see a contract in a timely manner, but it'll still be Allegiant; the pay & retirement & a few other things will improve but it's not gonna be anything close to a legacy.

Rando

Is it that bad currently at Allegiant that I'd be better off staying at a regional for the next few years? Or aiming for a different LCC?

Bitcoin

No it's usually better to try and have the company name on your paycheck match the side of the airplane. As long as you don't try to commute the lifestyle is great. If you care about stability, the airline had 11 percent profit magins last year which may have been the highest out of all airlines. I'm not sure any other LCC's are still hiring? With the recent union events, I suspect a new contract with hit very soon. Although I don't think it will be the standard I personally wanted, most will probably be with happy with it. If you live in or can move to a base I think you'll enjoy the QOL over 3-4 day trips.