Greyhound89

Nobody wins when the union cancels sessions and threatens to go to the NMB by January. Talk about negotiating in bad faith.

captnate702

Agree here. Why else would anybody come or stay here, if not for the day trips? Why else would you put up with the pay, scheduling practices, management team, training, etc?

tailendcharlie

LOL when the co. passed that concessionary proposal in November we should have told them to pound sand, called a strike vote just in time for Christmas (passengers don’t know it’s only symbolic), started picketing the stadium, and headed to the NMB. But I guess all that will come soon enough.

Greyhound89

You're completely right, we should have. But instead, we'll be picketing during the slow winter months and after football season. Maybe if we had some critical thinking capabilities in the union we'd be utilizing that "leverage" that we claim to have (we have it). Any pilot that WANTS to go infront of the NMB is in for a world of hurt when they learn that we won't be getting anything good from them any time soon. The NMB is about the largest loss the union could take right now. If we go in front of them before exhausting all forms of leverage (picketing, striking, etc.) it will really show how inept our savior AR is.

Spdbrd

You think we can strike before going to the NMB?

V2cut

I agree to an extent. In a way one could be equally as proud to be an Allegiant pilot as a Delta pilot if we do make a clear statement in the contract that day trips are here to stay and x work rules will be implemented if you have to work a multi day trip. But pay rates should be the same.

tom11011

no NMB no Strike. Might as well get on with the process.

golfbum971

I’m disappointed in the lack of comments about Redmond’s email from yesterday

Margaritaville

The NMB isn't going to release anyone to strike if you haven't already gone through the mediation process. You're showing your inexperience with the issues and management bias.

A strike vote is useless if you are still 2-3 steps away from a strike. That would be as amateurish as the status quo strike vote he took a couple years ago. Shot his wad and got nothing for it since a court predictably slapped him with an injunction the next day.

Andrew's biggest mistake was actually letting the company lead him on for the last year+. He should have filed for mediation the first time they negotiated in bad faith. If he'd done so the allegiant pilots might be in the end game. He couldn't really be that stupid and arrogant to believe this management group was going to actually bargain with him in good faith. That's what makes me think it's intentional, just to stay on the gravy train as long as possible. Kinda like the grievance machine does for him.

But yeah, they need to file for mediation ASAP. It'a a required step in the process to get released. That's the only thing thats going to move the process along. Plan on 1 year from the date you file for mediation to get a deal assuming nobody gets parked. That's pretty standard. Should have been done a long time ago. Ask Andrew why he didn't for so long. Press that question. Major mistake.

golfbum971

You can’t question the almighty without being ripped apart. This pilot group likes to eat their own for some reason.