tailendcharlie

If you watched Andrew's last video he was pretty clear, I'm paraphrasing but basically he said that if you're on the fence about leaving or staying then the next couple months will tell the tale; if we don't have a T/A in that timeframe....... well, pretty obvious what he was getting at.

Margaritaville

lolz

filler

akulahunter

If you are on the fence, "a couple of months" is too long to wait with all the AIPs dropping in rapid succession. There needs to be movement NOW. By any comparison, airlines that are our "competitors" have AIPs or new contracts (Alaska, Spirit, JetBlue, Delta) or have voted down deals(American, United), all of which are significantly better than the garbage the company is offering.

If the company continues to refuse to give us the work rules that literally every other airline already has and continues to offer insulting pay rates, then there really is no reason for a fence sitter to stick around. There is enough data out there now to give a direction for rates and the work rules have been in place for years. If the company isn't coming to the table with an acceptable deal now, they have plans that don't include significant growth over the next five years.

Wonder how many pilots it takes to be charter drivers to get people to sunseeker in PGD? I bet it isn't 1100 (or 2000, or 5000).

j3cub

He's not. But preaches for everyone else to leave.

KC135

Asking if he’s leaving is a straw man argument. I think he’s around 300 ish on the list and maybe has somewhere around 10 years left (just guessing). That’s not even close to the same type of decision most have to make.

I’m having discussions with the wife about leaving myself and I’m also around the top 25%, mostly about moving to a legacy base with the kids in college.

CRJdriver2017

I’m assuming he lives in FL somewhere in the MIA/FLL area. Claims he could just bid MIA at AA, upgrade and recoupe his money quick. Seems like a no-brainer to me. Legacies solve all problems lol

akulahunter

Pretty sure he lives in St Pete. Has/had a boat and is ex comair.

CRJdriver2017

Flew with a lot of Comair guys at Psa. Cool guys for the most part but damn if they didn’t hate Delta. I guess those feelings are valid.

captnate702

From what i'm hearing yesterday management made a "solid" offer this week for Sections 11 and 20. Apparently the new leadership in those departments basically put down the stuff we the pilots actually care about for training. sources did not say it was some great, fantastic kumbaya week, just that the new regime in flight ops and training were prepared and realistic in what they offered. I don't think we should be surprised MB knows this stuff inside and out.

take it for what its worth. per sources: "nobody should be super excited or think that we have gotten any closer in other sections of the contract, just that there is not a grand canyon separating management and the union when it comes to training."

honestly, i don't know whether this is good news or bad news. should it really be "good news" that management isn't doubling down on what has historically been at best, below average training? with all the growth management wants to have, training should be easy to get done - what is there to fight about?

Greyhound89

I think RH and MB will bring as much potential for genuinely positive change in their respective departments as we could hope for. At the end of the day though, their leash is only as long as MG allows. Hopefully, he sees as much potential in them as we do. At this point, any news is good news when it involves that union/company divide shrinking.