Contract negotiations
12-02-2022, 06:35 PM
#821
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 948
Instead of waiting around for some mythical future Allegiant matching T/A the lazy a$$ home every night Allegiant pilots should be flooding Delta with apps. Seriously guys wake up; what else are you waiting for?
12-02-2022, 08:17 PM
#822
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2022
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 110
12-03-2022, 12:02 PM
#823
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
Those expecting a contract in the next year or 2 are REALLY out of touch with reality and those thinking a TA is right around the corner should consider checking into the HIMS program. This new big D AIP should help everyone see the light that the bar is rapidly raising with other TA's following soon and there is no way in hell management will increase pilot expenses by 60%-80% when they can just keep their massive pilot discount and gamble on the recession slowing legacy hiring and uprooting a regional.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year.
Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year.
Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer.
12-03-2022, 12:10 PM
#824
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 948
Those expecting a contract in the next year or 2 are REALLY out of touch with reality and those thinking a TA is right around the corner should consider checking into the HIMS program. This new big D AIP should help everyone see the light that the bar is rapidly raising with other TA's following soon and there is no way in hell management will increase pilot expenses by 60%-80% when they can just keep their massive pilot discount and gamble on the recession slowing legacy hiring and uprooting a regional.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year.
Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year.
Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer.
12-04-2022, 11:57 AM
#826
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 207
12-05-2022, 01:48 AM
#828
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 655
Haven’t Frontier and Spirit been doing that for a while? And now Jetblue is gonna start doing it? I’m surprised it took Allegiant this long to start it.
Last edited by CRJdriver2017; 12-05-2022 at 02:02 AM.
12-05-2022, 07:27 AM
#829
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,170
Those expecting a contract in the next year or 2 are REALLY out of touch with reality and those thinking a TA is right around the corner should consider checking into the HIMS program. This new big D AIP should help everyone see the light that the bar is rapidly raising with other TA's following soon and there is no way in hell management will increase pilot expenses by 60%-80% when they can just keep their massive pilot discount and gamble on the recession slowing legacy hiring and uprooting a regional.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year.
Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer.
Our union is not going to sell us out and try and serve a crap TA to us either. Expect the full mediation process which could easily take 3-4 years from now BEST case scenario. If we've learned one thing over the years it's that they have the upper hand with federal judges. There is a reason the company analyzed consolidating down from 24 to 9 bases (info directly from our EXCO on a previous union town hall), the airline will most likely shrink down with 73 deliveries while parking all the older A319's which the company has been mentioning this 'flexibility' on every earnings call. There are still so many optimistic on the fence people here that probably won't hit their capitulation point until the first captain downgrade bid comes out next year.
Big D's new AIP has a top A320 CA rate of $334 at DOS then $379/hr in 3 years (22/5/4/4%). The last bid had ATL A320 CA NOV 2021 hire awards, making year 2 compensation at least $365,000 with 85 hrs monthly credit ($307/hr + 17% DC). But if you come here instead you can be home every night and make 100k year 2 FO if you hustle down to single digit days off in the summer.
UA is upgrading at 1 year. AA is less than 3 years.
Anyone who stays here and waits to see what happens is a fool.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
