Contract negotiations
07-01-2022, 06:54 AM
#431
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 948
Bingo. Anyone who's still here is in the top 30% or lazy as crap. I predict those who aren't in the top 30% and stay will regret their decision next year.
Nate's drunk on kool aid. There's no way that thing is getting approved. Even the MEC chairman walked it back yesterday because the AA/APA proposal that isn't even a TA blew it out of the water. It's hard to pull a TA before the vote and tell the NMB you're bargaining in good faith but UALPA has no choice now but to tell the pilots to vote it down and go back for more. At this point the MEC professional politicians are just trying to save their cushy jobs and their seat at the drinking games at the ALPA BOD this fall.
Nate's drunk on kool aid. There's no way that thing is getting approved. Even the MEC chairman walked it back yesterday because the AA/APA proposal that isn't even a TA blew it out of the water. It's hard to pull a TA before the vote and tell the NMB you're bargaining in good faith but UALPA has no choice now but to tell the pilots to vote it down and go back for more. At this point the MEC professional politicians are just trying to save their cushy jobs and their seat at the drinking games at the ALPA BOD this fall.
They need to clean house, put away those Armani suits put on a uniform go back to the line.
07-01-2022, 10:05 AM
#433
Kabuki Kool
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: fu3king.airline@Furlough. DNA
Posts: 447
Looks like UA is still going ahead and voting on that T/A? This will be interesting. We have a contingent here that believes anonymous greed will always prevail. UA alpa MEC seems to be back peddling this T/A like crazy. Does anyone know when their vote closes?
07-01-2022, 10:28 AM
#435
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 948
07-01-2022, 03:49 PM
#437
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 412
Nate's drunk on kool aid. There's no way that thing is getting approved. Even the MEC chairman walked it back yesterday because the AA/APA proposal that isn't even a TA blew it out of the water. It's hard to pull a TA before the vote and tell the NMB you're bargaining in good faith but UALPA has no choice now but to tell the pilots to vote it down and go back for more. At this point the MEC professional politicians are just trying to save their cushy jobs and their seat at the drinking games at the ALPA BOD this fall.
07-02-2022, 05:11 AM
#438
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,170
I'll be shocked if this thing passes. UA and all the other legacies have now hired a ton of disgruntled Lost Decade RJ guys who have seen it all and aren't in the mood to take another bite of the crap sandwich. The days of management and their union golfing buddies sliding a POS TA past them are long gone.
07-02-2022, 10:20 AM
#439
Kabuki Kool
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: fu3king.airline@Furlough. DNA
Posts: 447
I'll be shocked if this thing passes. UA and all the other legacies have now hired a ton of disgruntled Lost Decade RJ guys who have seen it all and aren't in the mood to take another bite of the crap sandwich. The days of management and their union golfing buddies sliding a POS TA past them are long gone.
07-03-2022, 08:44 AM
#440
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
I’ve been running into a few new hires that believe we’re getting a TA very soon, within next couple months. They obviously aren’t familiar with our management. For anyone thinking this will happen, ask yourself this: would G4 management increase pilot expenses by 40-50% when their economist are predicting a 99% chance of a recession? The training department has been almost doubled, expect 2 classes per month indefinitely, 1 to cover attrition and 1 to slowly grow the list. By the way, it cost significantly less to replace attrition than to pay the whole pilot group a respectable wage with work rules, even when cancelled flight revenue is factored in. As long as new hires continue to show up, there will be no TA for years.
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