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Old 06-23-2022, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 9easy
Southwest pilots and SWAPA took double-time for their entire schedules the last several months, and they're in contract negotiations too.
Bad comparison. Southwest and allegiant. Ones an Air Line, the other isn’t. Like saying living in Denver is the same as living in Tîjūãnã.
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Old 06-23-2022, 02:51 PM
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Right. Second year FO’s at SWA make over $200k and a 12 year CA makes $450k on average. All while having 18 days off a month.
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Originally Posted by V2cut
Right. Second year FO’s at SWA make over $200k and a 12 year CA makes $450k on average. All while having 18 days off a month.
Lol, I know quite a few Southwest guys, and I’d say this is a slight embellishment of what they make on average. No doubt more than Allegiant, but the average senior guy isn’t making anywhere near $450k and getting 18 days off at the same time.
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Old 06-23-2022, 03:58 PM
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Lol, I know quite a few Southwest guys, and I’d say this is a slight embellishment of what they make on average. No doubt more than Allegiant, but the average senior guy isn’t making anywhere near $450k and getting 18 days off at the same time.
*Including profit sharing and retirement, the average 12 year + SWA CA brings in ~ $450k
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Originally Posted by FreshWater
Bad comparison. Southwest and allegiant. Ones an Air Line, the other isn’t. Like saying living in Denver is the same as living in Tîjūãnã.
The point is SWAPA is also in contentious contract negotiations. They just had a picketing event this week. They still took a deal to make extra money. The fact they already get paid more should mean they would be less inclined to take a short term deal, since they don't need the money... Whatever deal SWAPA made with management was a good deal in the eyes of their union. Our EXCO decided this deal wasn't good, and I'm sure they had a good reason, and it wasn't just to spite the company.
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Old 06-24-2022, 08:30 AM
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UA TA today. Does this mean management can’t accuse the union of dragging their feet?
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UA TA today. Does this mean management can’t accuse the union of dragging their feet?
All I know is the bar just got raised, shall we continue to dance?
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Originally Posted by Jim Rockford
All I know is the bar just got raised, shall we continue to dance?
The UA T/A is being termed “concessionary” by many pilots & is quite possibly going to be rejected. The bar needs to be higher.
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Old 06-25-2022, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Rockford
All I know is the bar just got raised, shall we continue to dance?
Have you read it? It's totally concessionary. Raises below inflation and lowering reserve availability from 1200 to 0600 on the first day are just two notable turds in the punchbowl. Also no positive space commuting and airport ready reserve stands.

The UAL guys seem primed to reject it by a huge margin.
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Have you read it? It's totally concessionary. Raises below inflation and lowering reserve availability from 1200 to 0600 on the first day are just two notable turds in the punchbowl. Also no positive space commuting and airport ready reserve stands.

The UAL guys seem primed to reject it by a huge margin.
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