FreshWater

To add to that our training department is very 1980. No AQP. We train to about 50%, test to 100%. Scheduling is done by the intern using an excel spread sheet. Very understaffed, under equipped from every point. Our instructors are overcooked over saturated and have no time to teach. You risk a black mark on your PRIA, with this type of testing environment. Then you will languish inordinate amount of time waiting for IOE. I only mentioned this because it sounds like you want to use this place as a stepping stone to a Legacy while you chill in ABE, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It would just be better to be more established in your resume, before you come to a complete halt in advancing it for a long period of time. IMO.

Margaritaville

Bottom line. Don't come here unless you live in a junior base and want to stay there in the right seat.

This is no place for commuters and time builders. You will be miserable and make everyone flying with you miserable.

FreshWater

Is the sun still setting this weekend? Or, did management make another unwise/unwarranted threat to intimidate the union into submission? Like the Covid induced threats and intimidation tactics of yore*.

*(new hires see furlough and soon to be sweeet UA contract)

Thought Tool said that wasn’t going to happen?

310skying

The sunset/threats/intimidation phase ended 2 weeks ago. Tracy/Bill have been told to get out of the way and Uncle M has been flying to AZ to get a deal done. Progress being made but the bar just got raised even higher today. Best case scenario is Nov-Dec 22, worst case is mediation and another 2 years.

at least the clowns have been told to sit down and the actual deal makers are involved now.

captnate702

I agree with your best case scenario: no way something gets done this summer. but i totally disagree with your worst case scenario. worst case scenario is still 4-5 years easy. We have only ta'd two sections last check. and we are going round in circles on sections 18 and 19 for months now with no end in sight. if it is gonna take us 2 years just to get union business, grievance and arbitration then it will take us at least 4-5 years to agree to the rest of the contract... we basically have to rewrite all of scheduling.

is it good MG is personally involved? I know AR's last video said the company is starting to get serious but i haven't heard about any thing being ta'd recently. MG is not getting involved for this to take 3-5 years. if MG is involved then he wants a deal done now. MG was rubbing AR's tummy last week on the earnings call and town hall - calling him out by name and working directly with him.

We did lose another arbitration for rental cars and deadhead pay which is not good. is arbitrating a new contract still the right strategy? it has been a really long time since we won something. i think we've lost like 5 or 6 in a row. we definitely cannot win them all and we have won a bunch. did something change? i don't think we changed lawyers so maybe something else changed that triggered this losing streak.

tailendcharlie

The company won’t comply with even recently decided arbitrations/agreements. Until there’s a culture change that says we honor contracts, nothing’s gonna get done. So yeah at this point I can see 4-5 years.

310skying

Worst case scenario of 2 years comes directly from AR and our union quarterly call and incorporates going to federal mediation. Also ARs video from last week had a new section TA’d bringing the total to 7. As far as M getting involved, AR seems to be optimistic with the involvement, but keep spreading hyperbole.

tailendcharlie

Let’s see them T/A 18 & 19 & honor the HDMWD settlement properly; at that time - whenever that may be - we can reassess the likely timetable.

Jim Rockford

Fellow pilots, a quick contract (relatively) and Maury Gallagher do not go hand in hand. This kabuki dance is just getting started. You guys actually believe a contract is at hand?! The ghosts of AAPAG & Teamsters #1 are rattling they’re chains of negotiations past. You have been warned! Hahaha!!!!

tailendcharlie

This is the first rodeo for a lot of Allegiant pilots so cut them a little slack. It’ll be a learning experience.