tom11011

Thank you.

tailendcharlie

They're getting played 95% don't even get it.

tom11011

Its the 5% that are the most worrysome.

skyvanman

Was Nate wrong? No, GU removed a negotiator who is significantly more experienced than himself and his ego couldn't handle that. Chapi you yourself advocated time value money all during the election, what ever happened to that? GU feeds you enough BS that you just turn a blind eye? GU is costing each pilot at Allegiant MILLIONS in career earnings, not to mention syphoning money out of 2118 like it's going out of style.

"JO conspired with AR, DB and anyone else I don't like to get Allegiant pilots a contract. I can't be outdone, my Atlas contract is the high water mark of the industry" -GU and his logic probably.

Captainbfv

I advocated what?

tom11011

He's not even a negotiator, he's not even in the room!

captnate702

he doesn’t have to be in the room to be the puppet master. Look what happened when Owen’s got out of line and started getting a deal done quick, Greg yanked him immediately.

You just don’t get it don’t?? Everything you say just reinforces the fact that Greg is our supreme leader and playing us all for pawns. It takes a true sycophant to not realize that you and chapi are playing into management’s playbook every time you open your mouth…

tom11011

Tell us the reason Owen was removed, can you?

skyvanman

While your buddy JR was running for El Presidente, the "Destin Mafia" sure was noisey about his aspiration to wrap up negotiations because at some point, you lose money regardless of the gains we may get by dragging it out. It has been silence from your thought pool since then. Are we just supposed to hold out on this money in hopes we get another 3%? Seriously?

Did you not just listen to his most recent update? He said in his own words that he participates in negotiations. When he doesn't, don't worry. We have the lawyer who negotiated mechanic and ramper contracts AND the almighty Atlas POS. We have a team of winners.

It's shocking isn't it? Most of these guys have completely forgotten that this is not our first rodeo with supreme leader GU.

Can you? Can anybody? No, all we have to go off of is a non-corroborated letter from GU with absolutely ZERO supporting evidence to back up his claims. GU is an absolute maniac who is so self-obsessed he will stop at nothing until he is king of his own ant hill. You're honestly going to tell us that GU, an idiot who negotiates sh*t for Atlas, Republic, Horizon, Northern Air Cargo, etc... suddenly now knows how to negotiate better than a guy who negotiated at American and US Air? Get real.

Captainbfv

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyvanman

While your buddy JR was running for El Presidente, the "Destin Mafia" sure was noisey about his aspiration to wrap up negotiations because at some point, you lose money regardless of the gains we may get by dragging it out. It has been silence from your thought pool since then. Are we just supposed to hold out on this money in hopes we get another 3%? Seriously?

The Destin mafia? lol, you sure are a hoot. You think using language like that makes it a fact. But if that's how you see the base, then that's how you see the base. Secondly, never did J.R state that he wanted to wrap up negotiations and focusing on "the money". If anything I remember many of his videos him stating that his plan was bringing in experts with RLA experience of the caliber or greater than what the company has. We have that now. John Wentz (I believe is how you spell his last name) IS THAT PERSON. Along with the SMEs and other experts in cost analysis, and PBS. J.R also while campaigning said to take an approach that would encourage colaboration from the company's side. Guess what, that's happening too. I was still supporting AR until half way through the election. And my decision to vote for J.R wasn't bc he was willing to go for the money as you state it, it was bc Robles lied about many things, did absolute 180's on many things such as negotiations. He went from we are years away from the company negotiating in good faith, to "we are now at the 7th inning". His plan (goal) by winning was to not let anyone see what a hot dog stand he was running. Centralized power, misuse of funds, no structure, to procedures manual, so on and so on.


[/QUOTE]Can you? Can anybody? No, all we have to go off of is a non-corroborated letter from GU with absolutely ZERO supporting evidence to back up his claims. GU is an absolute maniac who is so self-obsessed he will stop at nothing until he is king of his own ant hill. You're honestly going to tell us that GU, an idiot who negotiates sh*t for Atlas, Republic, Horizon, Northern Air Cargo, etc... suddenly now knows how to negotiate better than a guy who negotiated at American and US Air? Get real.[/QUOTE]

There is "evidence" as you so call it in a form of a TEXT message Owen's himself sent to some in AR's inner circle were he clearly states his disdain for the IBT, and how it was a power grab and how AR was a victim of it all. He did this after clearing being told to cut off any/all communications with AR and any union member. Surprised you haven't seen it. We get it, you don't like GU. You have your reasons and well, even if many disagree, your opinion should be "respected". After all this is a nation that protects free speech. That doesn't make you correct. The negotiating committee has been given tremendous resources and autonomy, to were GU is not in the room, or pulling the strings. I think you're describing AR when he "removed himself" from the NC and place J.O and S.A.

You know what the funny part was, that right before the slates were official, AR called me, asking me if I had heard who was going to run against him. He assumed that S.A was going to run against him, and he was so convinced of it that he told me many of S.A "dirty little secrets". And told me that he knew all his skeletons and he would crush him if he dared to run against him. When it turned out to not be S.A, and then S.A endorsed him AR warmed up to him, and decided to place him to lead negotiations. Hmmm I wonder what sort of "deal with the devil" they made. Those are some facts for ya.

Carry on.