Contract negotiations
08-08-2024, 05:06 PM
#2022
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 709
Make no mistake, waiting to get a contract will absolutely not be worth the squeeze.
A year from now when we still don’t have a contract we will be saying the same thing: “should have taken the contract management offered last summer.”
GU and the union are in a tough spot I give them that. They gotta show their value but is the juice worth the squeeze? Seriously. The market has turned 180 degrees and the union has an impossible job of convincing the mediator that we should get no less than legacy rates and work rules.
08-11-2024, 10:31 AM
#2023
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2020
Position: Airbus Captain
Posts: 68
If you're not furious with the IBT antics yet...maybe this will help:
PSA Airlines (CRJ 700s/900s)
Max CA pay is $221.25 (2024), $225 (2025), $228.75 (2026).
First year FO pay is $96 (2024), $99 (2025), $102 (2026).
Line check airmen receive a 200% pay credit (up to $457.50 / IOE flight hour).
Again, these rates are Regional Airline rates.
PSA Airlines (CRJ 700s/900s)
Max CA pay is $221.25 (2024), $225 (2025), $228.75 (2026).
First year FO pay is $96 (2024), $99 (2025), $102 (2026).
Line check airmen receive a 200% pay credit (up to $457.50 / IOE flight hour).
Again, these rates are Regional Airline rates.
08-11-2024, 03:43 PM
#2024
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 947
If you're not furious with the IBT antics yet...maybe this will help:
PSA Airlines (CRJ 700s/900s)
Max CA pay is $221.25 (2024), $225 (2025), $228.75 (2026).
First year FO pay is $96 (2024), $99 (2025), $102 (2026).
Line check airmen receive a 200% pay credit (up to $457.50 / IOE flight hour).
Again, these rates are Regional Airline rates.
PSA Airlines (CRJ 700s/900s)
Max CA pay is $221.25 (2024), $225 (2025), $228.75 (2026).
First year FO pay is $96 (2024), $99 (2025), $102 (2026).
Line check airmen receive a 200% pay credit (up to $457.50 / IOE flight hour).
Again, these rates are Regional Airline rates.
08-11-2024, 04:49 PM
#2025
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 709
There's such a thing as allowing your opponent to believe they got the best of you, but having the last laugh. The framework would appear to be in place to achieve a reasonable deal now but instead we all leave huge amounts of money on the table while they try to make the deal perfect.
It’s why they are slow playing negotiations. Trying to find that perfect deal. Apparently GU and to a lesser extent the NC don’t believe in the “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.”
Would you rather get a double now or hope for the 1% possibility of a home run in 2026? I’d rather get the double two years sooner than wait for a home run and end up the double anyway.
Allegiant isn’t changing the business model to accommodate us. Get us the rates, retirement and LTD before the industry and the economy crash even more.
08-11-2024, 05:17 PM
#2026
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 947
it’s because IBT doesn’t care about us, they care about using this contract to “recruit” other airlines to the airline division - I know the concept is absurd but that is absolutely what GU is searching for.
It’s why they are slow playing negotiations. Trying to find that perfect deal. Apparently GU and to a lesser extent the NC don’t believe in the “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.”
Would you rather get a double now or hope for the 1% possibility of a home run in 2026? I’d rather get the double two years sooner than wait for a home run and end up the double anyway.
Allegiant isn’t changing the business model to accommodate us. Get us the rates, retirement and LTD before the industry and the economy crash even more.
It’s why they are slow playing negotiations. Trying to find that perfect deal. Apparently GU and to a lesser extent the NC don’t believe in the “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.”
Would you rather get a double now or hope for the 1% possibility of a home run in 2026? I’d rather get the double two years sooner than wait for a home run and end up the double anyway.
Allegiant isn’t changing the business model to accommodate us. Get us the rates, retirement and LTD before the industry and the economy crash even more.
08-12-2024, 03:15 AM
#2027
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 221
it’s because IBT doesn’t care about us, they care about using this contract to “recruit” other airlines to the airline division - I know the concept is absurd but that is absolutely what GU is searching for.
It’s why they are slow playing negotiations. Trying to find that perfect deal. Apparently GU and to a lesser extent the NC don’t believe in the “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.”
Would you rather get a double now or hope for the 1% possibility of a home run in 2026? I’d rather get the double two years sooner than wait for a home run and end up the double anyway.
Allegiant isn’t changing the business model to accommodate us. Get us the rates, retirement and LTD before the industry and the economy crash even more.
It’s why they are slow playing negotiations. Trying to find that perfect deal. Apparently GU and to a lesser extent the NC don’t believe in the “don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.”
Would you rather get a double now or hope for the 1% possibility of a home run in 2026? I’d rather get the double two years sooner than wait for a home run and end up the double anyway.
Allegiant isn’t changing the business model to accommodate us. Get us the rates, retirement and LTD before the industry and the economy crash even more.
08-12-2024, 08:38 AM
#2030
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: B757
Posts: 86
I'm hearing the company still won't budge on trip rigs? Do you really want to be doing 4 day trips that pay 16 hours or a 12 hour 3 day? I saw a few of those when they were experimenting with multiday trips a while back. We're going to have this contract for the next 7-10 years, a lot can change in that time so we need to at least lock in the basics even the regionals have.
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