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Old 08-05-2024, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
I believe he’s right, UAL has not cancelled class dates or paused hiring. Every other airline has. .
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are you happy with our current cba? Do you know who negotiated it?
Nobody is happy with our cba. Yes and it was not the 2 pilots who are in there negotiating now, the one with the title pilot negotiator wasn't even on property at the start of our current CBA and the second (current chief of staff) was only hired a few months before and wasn't involved. Sure those two don't call the shots but if there was anything unethical occuring pertaining to negotiations on the union side we would all know about it by now.
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Old 08-05-2024, 12:07 PM
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Nobody is happy with our cba. Yes and it was not the 2 pilots who are in there negotiating now, the one with the title pilot negotiator wasn't even on property at the start of our current CBA and the second (current chief of staff) was only hired a few months before and wasn't involved. Sure those two don't call the shots but if there was anything unethical occuring pertaining to negotiations on the union side we would all know about it by now.
it’s unethical we have a guy with a personal vendetta against the company as our trustee
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Old 08-05-2024, 05:26 PM
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it’s unethical we have a guy with a personal vendetta against the company as our trustee
I don’t know the characters and I don’t have a dog in this fight but isn’t he doing the company a favor? By keeping wages so low below industry average he’s helping them save on longevity costs and hourly rates. I read he put in for a company position and was turned down. The allegations about an airline that rhymes with Shmerican is that the union guys would get a crappy contract signed and then the negotiators and leadership would all get management jobs. Perhaps this guy is going to reapply.
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So, now that the Summer flying is behind us, I assume we can put all of that "Fast Track" talk on the back burner.
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I don’t know the characters and I don’t have a dog in this fight but isn’t he doing the company a favor? By keeping wages so low below industry average he’s helping them save on longevity costs and hourly rates. I read he put in for a company position and was turned down. The allegations about an airline that rhymes with Shmerican is that the union guys would get a crappy contract signed and then the negotiators and leadership would all get management jobs. Perhaps this guy is going to reapply.
I think this new almighty dictator knows the company is in a tough spot and he’s trying to milk it as long as he can. He doesn’t care about getting us a contract, or he’d use this leverage and get us a contract this week. The problem with this though is the company will not just bow down to him, they will just remain stagnant and make it work. He’s got a vendetta that is literally to burn Allegiant to the ground, he does not care about the pilots one bit
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I think this new almighty dictator knows the company is in a tough spot and he’s trying to milk it as long as he can. He doesn’t care about getting us a contract, or he’d use this leverage and get us a contract this week.
What leverage are you refering to?
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What leverage are you refering to?
you’d have to ask the union. They’ve stated they have leverage but won’t say what it is. My opinion is the company is in a tough spot financially to get financing for the 737, so getting a contract is a must and they’re running out of options until the union actually shows up to negotiate.
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Old 08-08-2024, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy8
you’d have to ask the union. They’ve stated they have leverage but won’t say what it is. My opinion is the company is in a tough spot financially to get financing for the 737, so getting a contract is a must and they’re running out of options until the union actually shows up to negotiate.
As long as the nc keeps pursuing their pipe dream of rewriting the work rules to make the airline Delta With Day Trips we'll be stuck on the scheduling section for years to come. Maury's not retooling Allegiant so pilots can have guaranteed day trips & 4 on/4 off.
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Originally Posted by jimmy8
you’d have to ask the union. They’ve stated they have leverage but won’t say what it is. My opinion is the company is in a tough spot financially to get financing for the 737, so getting a contract is a must and they’re running out of options until the union actually shows up to negotiate.
Funny. That's how GU and CG got the 2016 contract by leveraging the financing on the new Airbuses. Took the company to the point where they had to cry uncle and give them a deal. Looks like the same play book.
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