Contract negotiations
05-12-2024, 07:35 AM
#1871
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
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Tom you still listening to Andrew? Don’t tell me you’re still living in clouds. The attrition is done. There is no leverage. Legacy retirements can peak and it won’t make a difference.
I agree with Charlie and ghost and the previous so posts, the company can do whatever they want. We are at their mercy. There is no unity or leadership. The person pulling the strings is the same one who negotiated this turd of a contract - what gives you any confidence in the teamsters?
I agree with Charlie and ghost and the previous so posts, the company can do whatever they want. We are at their mercy. There is no unity or leadership. The person pulling the strings is the same one who negotiated this turd of a contract - what gives you any confidence in the teamsters?
What is your ideal outcome?
05-12-2024, 02:04 PM
#1872
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 713
I would think you would be pleased with members from the other slate on the negotiating committee representing our interests. I honestly cannot figure out what it is you want to have happen. You are not happy with the philosophy that it takes as long as it takes, or the old leadership, or the person in charge of the negotiating committee now, or members of the competing slate on the committee.
What is your ideal outcome?
What is your ideal outcome?
my gripe is about the teamsters. I fear they are gonna meddle and get in the way of us getting a deal that we want. I would be thrilled if GU was removed as trustee and they just let us vote for leadership.
or better yet, just bring in ALPA. If we want an industry standard contract then we need an industry standard union and that is not the teamsters.
05-12-2024, 03:10 PM
#1873
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I am thrilled that we actually have Allegiant pilots in their representing us. I was not a fan of Owens and the teenagers trying to represent us. I’m very happy having JR, JA, and others on the NC.
my gripe is about the teamsters. I fear they are gonna meddle and get in the way of us getting a deal that we want. I would be thrilled if GU was removed as trustee and they just let us vote for leadership.
or better yet, just bring in ALPA. If we want an industry standard contract then we need an industry standard union and that is not the teamsters.
my gripe is about the teamsters. I fear they are gonna meddle and get in the way of us getting a deal that we want. I would be thrilled if GU was removed as trustee and they just let us vote for leadership.
or better yet, just bring in ALPA. If we want an industry standard contract then we need an industry standard union and that is not the teamsters.
05-13-2024, 05:19 AM
#1874
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 154
I’ll be honest, my enthusiasm for GU has wained a little since the last meeting, and maybe you feel the same way for similar reasons. And I too think ALPA is the way to go. But I don’t think the timing is right. The moment that rushed election was announced I knew it was going to be a civil war. I feel we need a proper introduction to those pilots who might want to represent the group no matter which organization ultimately holds our membership.
05-13-2024, 06:57 PM
#1876
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06-13-2024, 10:58 AM
#1877
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Position: Airbus CA
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All the drama's over & the dust has settled and what's different? About to start trudging through the scheduling sections apparently with the goal of fundamentally changing how Maury runs the airline. Industry standard or better. It will take as long as it takes. Find a comfortable chair.
06-13-2024, 02:00 PM
#1878
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Position: B757
Posts: 89
All the drama's over & the dust has settled and what's different? About to start trudging through the scheduling sections apparently with the goal of fundamentally changing how Maury runs the airline. Industry standard or better. It will take as long as it takes. Find a comfortable chair.
06-14-2024, 04:18 PM
#1880
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