Contract negotiations
07-17-2023, 12:08 PM
#1761
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 227
Am I correct that the company who taking our jobs if the exemption is approved just tried to take off from a taxi-way?
Maybe I have the wrong Viva.
But if it is the same company I hope our union is all over this through national to pressure a big fat NO.
https://simpleflying.com/viva-aerobu...xiway-takeoff/
Maybe I have the wrong Viva.
But if it is the same company I hope our union is all over this through national to pressure a big fat NO.
https://simpleflying.com/viva-aerobu...xiway-takeoff/
09-21-2023, 03:05 PM
#1764
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Position: MD80 CA
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09-21-2023, 06:21 PM
#1765
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Posts: 227
Facts:
Progress is slow.
We've been in mediation for many months now and haven’t reached a TA on a single section.
The gap between the two parties is massive
Rumors:
The company isn’t interested in a deal until Viva is settled, which could be who knows how much longer.
Progress is slow.
We've been in mediation for many months now and haven’t reached a TA on a single section.
The gap between the two parties is massive
Rumors:
The company isn’t interested in a deal until Viva is settled, which could be who knows how much longer.
09-22-2023, 08:35 AM
#1766
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 953
The long game will continue…..the airline is doing well financially & operationally & they continue to enjoy the flexibility provided by 1980’s regional airline work rules, and industry-bottom pay. Attrition has dropped by half since the announcement of the retention bonus. And Sunseeker is opening. These are the salad days for Allegiant management.
10-22-2023, 06:38 AM
#1767
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Posts: 11
I am new so I am not trying to start an argument but the $65k is the first year only, it gets better fast. I currently make about $62k a year and get a raise if $2-4k a year. Sure year 1 sucks a bit for some but that quickly changes. It would take me 6-10 years to make 100k in my current job. Based on my basic info of Allegiant in 6-10 years I’ll be making $120k and possibly $200k+ if I make captain in 10 years. And that includes the next 6-8 months of time building. So I get more pay and I don’t have to live in a hotel 3 nights a week. I see my family regularly. Plus in a couple years when the contract is re-negotiated I could be making more. I see it as an all around win!
10-22-2023, 07:38 AM
#1768
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Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,406
I am new so I am not trying to start an argument but the $65k is the first year only, it gets better fast. I currently make about $62k a year and get a raise if $2-4k a year. Sure year 1 sucks a bit for some but that quickly changes. It would take me 6-10 years to make 100k in my current job. Based on my basic info of Allegiant in 6-10 years I’ll be making $120k and possibly $200k+ if I make captain in 10 years. And that includes the next 6-8 months of time building. So I get more pay and I don’t have to live in a hotel 3 nights a week. I see my family regularly. Plus in a couple years when the contract is re-negotiated I could be making more. I see it as an all around win!
Might even be able to hold day trips, although you'd obviously be on the road until you're senior enough for that.
10-22-2023, 08:13 AM
#1769
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Posts: 11
To me it is not worth 3-6 years of 12-18 nights a month on the road to hold a day trip better paying job later.
Just my opinion as an outside perspective looking in.
10-22-2023, 09:09 AM
#1770
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True I could make more over time at a legacy but honestly money is not everything (not everyone is money hungry). Quality of life NOW and being with my family now is MUCH more important. My point is I can make significantly more move than I currently make AND have a great quality of life NOW doing something I love. Down the road pay may be more than I expect and if so cool. If not I can deal with it. I am just saying it seems like a good place for lots of people and I think it is funny all those who say otherwise but don’t leave.
To me it is not worth 3-6 years of 12-18 nights a month on the road to hold a day trip better paying job later.
Just my opinion as an outside perspective looking in.
To me it is not worth 3-6 years of 12-18 nights a month on the road to hold a day trip better paying job later.
Just my opinion as an outside perspective looking in.
Also while we all know that money can't but happiness, lack of money can certainly impede happiness
But don't miss your kids growing up, that's priceless. I slow-rolled my career in part for that reason.
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