Vettekid

Ya, pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. Heck, I'm done with all the on boarding, ask that's left is to show up. I really wanted Allegiant to work out though. If you guys had a contract that was at least equal to SW current it would be more doable. But it just sounds pretty bad right now.

ronnyjon81

That's a bit of a stretch, I've yet to come across a new hire that compares G4 to a regional in this day and age. Outside of our FL flying, this is a part time job for most of us.

ronnyjon81

No business wants to cut margins, that's business 101. With that said, the industry drives costs. As the tide rises across the market, our ship inevitably rises. Management knows this, every day they delay they'll save a dollar but it'll cost them in the long run. I don't think the shareholders will allow this to go on past 2024. Depending on the outcome of arbitration this week, I think the company will get a kick in the A**. Flew with an FO who had TT in her jumpseat prior to her leaving. Evidently TT made claim that Maury is letting this go to fall to set the company up for growth now and then will jump back in and finish things up. Time will tell.

My answer to the first part of your statement. The retention bonus is only going to hurt the company the longer it accrues. It's an additional cost to the already rising costs they'll pickup with this new CBA. So in short, it isn't an indication that we are nowhere near an agreement.

Second portion, I'm not sure where you came from prior to G4 or WN but every airline has a different onboarding process. I'm sure ours has changed yearly since I joined back in ancient times but it sounds like lately it's a fingerprint and logbook review and standard document completion. Nothing that requires a crazy lead time. I don't think that is indicative of an airlines desire to get people in the door.

There are a handful of idiots here and on FB that are going to get the pilot group and union sued again. I'm so sick of hearing these non-subtle hints of illegal work actions. It needs to stop. The same idiots bi#ch about MG sending out a flyer and "directly negotiating".

Everyone has a place where they'll be happy. WN is a great operation but has their downfalls like anyone else. You'll work hard when you're at work and be paid handsomely for it. Perhaps one day you'll be doing turns or ETOPS in the left seat happy as a clam, until then, get ready for your 4+ leg days with 13 hour nights in DSM, STL, BNA etc. Not critiquing the choice, but just like G4 there is a large discrepancy between the top 50 and bottom 50. They're also no longer Herbs's baby, sounds like their current leadership would fit right in at G4.

Be Realistic

Wait wait..... so TT, in other words, said 'don't leave, good things are on the horizon'. Its like she had a regional airline script to read. How many numb-nuts believed it?

She sang the same song until the end. F & H probably hired her!

ronnyjon81

No, not quite. Where's your business degree from?

Alpinehiker

Spoken like someone who's never spent a day on reserve in Florida.

trvsmrtn

He literally said “Outside of our FL flying”.

rdneckpilot

Hey man. Don’t be harsh. Reading is like hard and stuff. Lol

Be Realistic

what kind of reply is that? I don’t have a business degree. I don’t need one to know when a comment from management is bull.

what were you trying to prove with your answer? I don’t get it. I’ve probably got the wrong degree

The Chow

Am I correct that the company who taking our jobs if the exemption is approved just tried to take off from a taxi-way?

Maybe I have the wrong Viva.

But if it is the same company I hope our union is all over this through national to pressure a big fat NO.

https://simpleflying.com/viva-aerobu...xiway-takeoff/