Contract negotiations
03-23-2023, 08:50 AM
#1632
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lol
KC isn’t management.
He is correct though. No way MG will sign a contract that’s industry leading in all respects.
If you think the pilots can shut the airline down that’s a farce as well unless a strike authorization occurs which is incredibly unlikely.
furthermore I have asked this question and never received an answer… how do we know what management actually has planned for allegiant?
If the master plan is to replace the Airbus with Boeing and eventually shrink to an 50-70ish airplane fleet then allegiant needs to maintain a small reduction in pilot staffing year to year and keep labor costs a low as possible for as long as possible.
KC isn’t management.
He is correct though. No way MG will sign a contract that’s industry leading in all respects.
If you think the pilots can shut the airline down that’s a farce as well unless a strike authorization occurs which is incredibly unlikely.
furthermore I have asked this question and never received an answer… how do we know what management actually has planned for allegiant?
If the master plan is to replace the Airbus with Boeing and eventually shrink to an 50-70ish airplane fleet then allegiant needs to maintain a small reduction in pilot staffing year to year and keep labor costs a low as possible for as long as possible.
03-23-2023, 09:22 AM
#1633
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Don’t engage with management tools like KC. We will demand Delta + 1 and the Biden admin and NMB will give it to us.
We should be released by the end of the year for a strike because Biden loves labor and his admin will use Allegiant as an example.
We should be released by the end of the year for a strike because Biden loves labor and his admin will use Allegiant as an example.
03-23-2023, 11:30 AM
#1634
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03-23-2023, 12:54 PM
#1635
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If only it worked that way.
03-23-2023, 08:04 PM
#1636
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Your right. Will most likely be released sooner. I doubt the stooges in Vegas will be serious at the mediation meetings, prob call in sick to one. Then the next meeting bring a draft of the current contract. I give the union 2 more video updates before the strike commutes plan comes out.
03-23-2023, 08:39 PM
#1637
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Your right. Will most likely be released sooner. I doubt the stooges in Vegas will be serious at the mediation meetings, prob call in sick to one. Then the next meeting bring a draft of the current contract. I give the union 2 more video updates before the strike commutes plan comes out.
A thought...open time to me is saying to management, I like what you pay me and I want more hours at that rate while a vfn is double pay and represents closer to what we should be paid.
03-26-2023, 09:56 PM
#1638
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I'm in the we'll never get released group but if we do awesome! If we don't then we watch what could have been great crumble. Most/all that are here don't want it to fail but we owe it to ourselves and the industry not to work at a discount. If the company doesn't want to give us that then it isn't the pilot burning this place down its management. I have too much invested to leave but can't stomach the thought of the c suite folks benefiting from my cheap labor anymore.
A thought...open time to me is saying to management, I like what you pay me and I want more hours at that rate while a vfn is double pay and represents closer to what we should be paid.
A thought...open time to me is saying to management, I like what you pay me and I want more hours at that rate while a vfn is double pay and represents closer to what we should be paid.
03-27-2023, 08:34 AM
#1639
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I am not sure where you are going with this? so the company should limit ppl from being allowed to pick up open time and vfns? or are you saying the union should limit ppl from doing it?
03-27-2023, 10:53 AM
#1640
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Ah he must be relatively senior but not senior enough to ever be awarded any VFN's. As a result, he'll accuse anybody who picks them up as being a "company man" out to make sure the union collapses and we never get a contract.
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