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Old 03-23-2023, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1
Year 2 pay is still below all the other carriers when you factor in low monthly credit on reserve , 401k matching, vacation,bidding and all the other parts of the contract the union is fighting for. A industry leading contract will fix the shortage.
Is an Industry-leading contract realistic to expect? Would you expect something in the ball park of where Breeze is at? Maybe just asking payscale here because I don't know their contract.
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by QuickieMonster
Is an Industry-leading contract realistic to expect? Would you expect something in the ball park of where Breeze is at? Maybe just asking payscale here because I don't know their contract.
There's no way a contract that leads the industry will happen. Currently that would be something higher than DAL with a top CA rate on the A320 at $380/hr and a slope of only $30 from year 1 to year 12 (year 1 DAL A320 CA is $350/hr DOS+3) plus 18% DC. It's hard to say what our rates will look like because a TA is many years away in an ever changing industry, probably 2025-2027 but one upping DAL is a 0% chance IMO.
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by KC135
There's no way a contract that leads the industry will happen. Currently that would be something higher than DAL with a top CA rate on the A320 at $380/hr and a slope of only $30 from year 1 to year 12 (year 1 DAL A320 CA is $350/hr DOS+3) plus 18% DC. It's hard to say what our rates will look like because a TA is many years away in an ever changing industry, probably 2025-2027 but one upping DAL is a 0% chance IMO.
You’re a management loving tool. Delta + 1 or else we will shut this airline down.
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:11 AM
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You’re a management loving tool. Delta + 1 or else we will shut this airline down.
Hahahha!
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by KC135
There's no way a contract that leads the industry will happen. Currently that would be something higher than DAL with a top CA rate on the A320 at $380/hr and a slope of only $30 from year 1 to year 12 (year 1 DAL A320 CA is $350/hr DOS+3) plus 18% DC. It's hard to say what our rates will look like because a TA is many years away in an ever changing industry, probably 2025-2027 but one upping DAL is a 0% chance IMO.
C Suites on APC again. Anything less then Delta plus one and we wouldn’t be able to look at ourselves the mirror.
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by QuickieMonster
Is an Industry-leading contract realistic to expect?
Not with that attitude. You need to check your privilege.
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KC135
There's no way a contract that leads the industry will happen. Currently that would be something higher than DAL with a top CA rate on the A320 at $380/hr and a slope of only $30 from year 1 to year 12 (year 1 DAL A320 CA is $350/hr DOS+3) plus 18% DC. It's hard to say what our rates will look like because a TA is many years away in an ever changing industry, probably 2025-2027 but one upping DAL is a 0% chance IMO.
We are moving forward together with the industry or no contract will be presented to the pilots to even vote on.
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Old 03-23-2023, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
You’re a management loving tool. Delta + 1 or else we will shut this airline down.
lol

KC isn’t management.

He is correct though. No way MG will sign a contract that’s industry leading in all respects.

If you think the pilots can shut the airline down that’s a farce as well unless a strike authorization occurs which is incredibly unlikely.

furthermore I have asked this question and never received an answer… how do we know what management actually has planned for allegiant?

If the master plan is to replace the Airbus with Boeing and eventually shrink to an 50-70ish airplane fleet then allegiant needs to maintain a small reduction in pilot staffing year to year and keep labor costs a low as possible for as long as possible.
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Old 03-23-2023, 08:33 AM
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We are moving forward together with the industry or no contract will be presented to the pilots to even vote on.
Hahaha you do realize if this place gets shut down then AR won’t be able to afford the mortgage on his new 3m buckeye estate? No way he lets that happen…
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Old 03-23-2023, 08:39 AM
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Hahaha you do realize if this place gets shut down then AR won’t be able to afford the mortgage on his new 3m buckeye estate? No way he lets that happen…
He's got 10 million of our assessment in the bank. When this place shuts down what happens to that money?
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