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03-18-2023, 07:54 PM

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APM1216

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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie

Odds are this will not be possible. You’ll have a reserve line figure on $4,000/mo.

Oh alright, thank you.

03-18-2023, 08:08 PM

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tom11011

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Originally Posted by APM1216

Oh wow that's pretty long. How much money could I make the first year if I fly a lot and pick up open time?

Lol this sounds like a troll post but expect $49,000 first year.

03-18-2023, 08:14 PM

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APM1216

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Originally Posted by tom11011

Lol this sounds like a troll post but expect $49,000 first year.

Yeah sorry I had a feeling it would. I'm flying part 135 currently, definitely not a troll, just wish first year pay was enough to support a family on. I'd love to do day trips and make decent money.

03-18-2023, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by APM1216

Yeah sorry I had a feeling it would. I'm flying part 135 currently, definitely not a troll, just wish first year pay was enough to support a family on. I'd love to do day trips and make decent money.

Allegiant is a different kind of airline.

03-19-2023, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeakygreaser

My prediction is December 2023. No 1st year raise outside a new contract will be considered by the Union at this stage of negotiations.

Thanks for the direct answer. With raises elsewhere in the industry and a couple companies moving toward day trips for those who are inclined toward them, it makes that year 1 at Allegiant a tough proposition. Good luck!

03-19-2023, 05:45 AM

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TangoIndiaMike1

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Originally Posted by rabbo

frontier has a $50k bonus. Starts at $90k a year and has a high amount of day trips. Get the Airbus type and any major will interview you.

03-19-2023, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by APM1216

Oh alright, thank you.

keep in mind the $4000 a month number that people throw out is gross income.

$56/hr
72 hr/mo guarantee

$56x72hrs=$4032

After taxes and deductions expect that number to be more like $2800 a month net income.

03-19-2023, 06:41 AM

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flydiamond

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Originally Posted by Rotorwashed

And commuting expenses. 14 of the 15 newest pilots will be commuters for at least 2 months or so...

03-19-2023, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by APM1216

Sorry to ask such a half-wit question that no one really knows the answer to, but any guess on when a new contract could realistically go into effect? I live in Indy and would love to drive to work every day; just can't afford the first year pay.

The industry average is close to 3 years after expiration. No airline has ever negotiated in less than 2 years this century except for NK's recent short term deal which just holds them over to the merger (if that happens). We're currently only about 1.5 years after expiration and the company is still passing over many items that are below every other airline including regionals (scope, rigs, vacation etc) so it's very clear they aren't interested in a deal anytime soon. Mid to late 2024 would be best case scenario but 2025-2026 would be more realistic IMO.

03-19-2023, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KC135

For anyone who hasn’t experienced federal mediation, it will soon become apparent how slow & tedious the process is. Coupled with management quite content to live with slow shrinkage while enjoying rock-bottom pilot costs, 2025-2026 seems realistic. Expect it to run the full course with an impasse & possible self-help (& now stand by for all the geniuses to chime in with why the mediator will never “allow” this lol….)