tom11011

What is it you don't like about them?

Greyhound89

If you're an active line pilot with any experience at any other airline that's represented by a true AIRLINE union, you shouldn't need me to tell you. IBT represents truckers and baristas, they're truly clueless in our profession. I'm not saying we don't have good guys in 2118, but I'm saying the tools they've been given are pretty dull in comparison to what they would be with ALPA on property.

TangoIndiaMike1

I believe in one of Andrew’s videos he talked about the new contract allocating x amount of pilots for union work per base or per 100 pilots. Union leaders would have to take unpaid leave to do a roadshow which is unacceptable. Having more paid staff in the union is one tool that will help.

SloNLow

I appreciated the update today from AR & team. I have paid my dues over the years as many others have too. That includes 3yrs flight instructing, 3yrs flying for a regional airline, 5yrs flying for two legacy airlines prior to Allegiant.

AR responded to a question which asked the should I stay or should I go Q. His response was honest and thought provoking. Basically each pilot needs to assess their needs, desires & goals then make their own decision.

I was happy to hear that AR plans on staying here to fight for our next contract & that fight is alive and well. The contract itself is front & center, not the time frame in which to achieve it.

I made the personal decision (family, type of flying, co-workers, location, age, etc) that Allegiant is an excellent fit for me. I’m looking forward to a much needed improved contract, when it is achieved.

tailendcharlie

He also made it clear he doesn’t expect the company to negotiate a day trip guarantee nor will he pursue one.

Contrary to what some on here have been saying.

Greyhound89

I think that Allegiant will grow on the backside of this. Despite the semantics by many of those "doomsday types" that frequent our forums and Facebook posts, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Ultimately, there are many of us who feel the same and have reached the same personal decision. Despite the best effort by some on this forum to label us as "un-hireables" with skeletons in the closet, we are at Allegiant by choice. It sounds like we've got a similar background, I was previously at a couple of legacy carriers and can say from experience that they all have their own unique problems. We will absolutely get a new contract here that pays us fairly with an increase in our QOL, there is no doubt in my mind. While we absolutely should prepare for a long fight, I don't foresee the company having a choice besides inking it sooner rather than later. Simply put, the share holders will not allow it and I think that will be reflected in tomorrow's earnings call. Despite the company venturing into the hotel waters, the airline is what makes their money. Even if they add 20 world class resorts down in Mexico, it will never replace the revenue that the flying does. With only 1 hotel coming online and up to 3 more rumored, I am not the slightest bit concerned. The Viva deal is concerning but this talk of cabotage and that they will steal our flying is comical. I trust our 2118 leadership has scope at the front of their mind at the table. Could it limit our flying into Mexico? Of course, but we are many moons away from seeing the full impact of this on our operation.

For those who are leaving, I wish you nothing but the best. For those who are staying, I look forward to working with you all for years to come. For those who are going to jump on me the second I hit reply, as always, I'm eager to learn a new insult for the week!

tailendcharlie

Lot of good points Greyhound, but I suspect tomorrow’s earnings call, whatever the actual numbers, is going to be the same back-slapping “we’re awesome” “everybody’s fighting attrition” “we got it under control” mantra as always…..

xiovelrahc

Are we taking bets on how big a hit the stock is going to take after the earnings are released?

tailendcharlie

Looks like things couldn't be better.....who needs a pilot contract?

Greyhound89

Well it's safe to say the stock is going up today...