Contract negotiations
01-19-2023, 03:49 PM
#1211
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Joined APC: Feb 2021
Posts: 70
Not a doom and gloom guy but when I get an email from the company telling me about how excited they are are the mediator assignmented by the NMB I have to assume we are screwed. An email gloating to the pilot group about the assigned mediator...this place will never change
01-19-2023, 03:58 PM
#1212
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 948
Not a doom and gloom guy but when I get an email from the company telling me about how excited they are are the mediator assignmented by the NMB I have to assume we are screwed. An email gloating to the pilot group about the assigned mediator...this place will never change
For the hundreth time......IBT will negotiate the best industry-standard contract possible.....management decides how to run the airline.
01-20-2023, 06:19 AM
#1213
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 566
The mediator will never motivate the company. The only thing that will motivate them, is one day they show up in Summerlin and the Chairman decides he wants it done.
Currently Allegiant is the only management team in the USA that is unconcerned about pilot staffing at retainment. Either Allegiant is the smartest and most forward thinking management team in the industry, or.....
Currently Allegiant is the only management team in the USA that is unconcerned about pilot staffing at retainment. Either Allegiant is the smartest and most forward thinking management team in the industry, or.....
01-20-2023, 07:27 AM
#1214
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Position: 787 FO
Posts: 18
Upgrade at DL is now at 5 months (August 22 hire) on the 75/76 NYC. At the new contract rate, FIRST YEAR pay is $316 per hour. Long call will go up to 18 hours, with a max of six short call periods per month. And if you want to still be home every night? We have a bunch of single-day trips that just sit in open time. Live in base and continue going to work with only a lunch bag.
Changing companies in a seniority-driven industry is difficult. So is the prospect of going on first year pay. But you’ll get to an airline that has some integrity and you’ll wonder why you didn’t leave that abusive relationship sooner.
-Former G4er.
Changing companies in a seniority-driven industry is difficult. So is the prospect of going on first year pay. But you’ll get to an airline that has some integrity and you’ll wonder why you didn’t leave that abusive relationship sooner.
-Former G4er.
01-23-2023, 11:44 AM
#1215
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,013
Oh we are going to be released from mediation there is no doubt in my mind. Let's just get through this mediator as quickly as possible, it probably won't take too long for her to see that company simply won't compromise on matters industry standard and she will be left wondering what she is even doing here. But that's ok. One way or the other things are going to be changing around here. Company's best bet is to probably dissect the hotel(s) from the airline and put us for sale.
01-23-2023, 01:36 PM
#1217
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01-23-2023, 02:39 PM
#1218
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 154
How much money are they investing in Hotels over the next couple of years compared to how much are they investing in new airplanes?
01-23-2023, 09:31 PM
#1219
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 138
Oh we are going to be released from mediation there is no doubt in my mind. Let's just get through this mediator as quickly as possible, it probably won't take too long for her to see that company simply won't compromise on matters industry standard and she will be left wondering what she is even doing here. But that's ok. One way or the other things are going to be changing around here. Company's best bet is to probably dissect the hotel(s) from the airline and put us for sale.
01-24-2023, 04:54 AM
#1220
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,170
I think it's very unlikely she will see management as the problem. There will be no release. After a year or so of negotiations, Maury will float an offer a single digit percentage below the other airlines (less because "unique business model") and she'll give the union a take it or leave it proposition and threaten to recess (park) negotiations for a year if they don't.
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