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#1191
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You brag as if your future is secure. The only thing you for sure will have is a seniority number to hopefully come back to if/when you get furloughed on the next downturn. That's what most of us have/will have being at a legacy on the next economic downturn. Which is coming. Just a matter of time.
I also did not intend to brag. My intent is to be motivational and encouraging.
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#1192
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Wrong. The courts just order the union to hammer you or they get fined.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-11th-...t/1362939.html
Thats why the moderators put in the recent caution about even discussing such things.
The district court properly determined that Delta's pilots were engaged in an unlawful no-overtime campaign. However, the district court improperly interpreted the gravity and depth of ALPA's duty under the RLA to prevent such an unlawful job action. Because there has been no showing that ALPA lacks control over the pilots, reason dictates that ALPA has not done enough to fulfill its statutorily mandated duty to “maintain” the agreement and avoid an “interruption to commerce.” Upon remand, the district court shall issue appropriate injunctive relief directing ALPA to take further steps to end the pilots' no-overtime campaign. Further steps may include issuing directives as drafted by the court and threatening (or imposing) union sanctions for violations, as permitted by ALPA's constitution.25 If ALPA complies with the court's orders and the no-overtime campaign continues, Delta may return to the district court for injunctive relief against individual pilots, as discussed supra Part III.C.
REVERSED and REMANDED, with instructions.
I concur in the determination that under the law ALPA has an affirmative duty to exert every reasonable effort to prevent or stop the unilateral unlawful activity of its members and that it has not fulfilled that duty. Accordingly, I agree that this case should be remanded for the entry of an appropriate injunction requiring ALPA to take all reasonable steps to do so. However, any discussion of possible actions based on the possibility that ALPA cannot control its membership is premature.
REVERSED and REMANDED, with instructions.
I concur in the determination that under the law ALPA has an affirmative duty to exert every reasonable effort to prevent or stop the unilateral unlawful activity of its members and that it has not fulfilled that duty. Accordingly, I agree that this case should be remanded for the entry of an appropriate injunction requiring ALPA to take all reasonable steps to do so. However, any discussion of possible actions based on the possibility that ALPA cannot control its membership is premature.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-11th-...t/1362939.html
Thats why the moderators put in the recent caution about even discussing such things.
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I fully accepted the possibility of furlough from the legacy job. Especially since I have already been furloughed three times in my career including allegiant. Im a minimum of two years away from feeling generally safe from furlough. But that’s just a feeling. Truth is we are all at risk it’s just a measure of how much.
I also did not intend to brag. My intent is to be motivational and encouraging.
I also did not intend to brag. My intent is to be motivational and encouraging.
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The error in your logic and where you messed up is here.
Do whatever you want but don't go online and say
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We have been fortunae that the American people still spend more than most. Hopefully things return to "normal", but with the green push and golbalist push, I expect for things to "shrink" through mergers and consolidation. When? Only a matter of time. Regardless of where you go or stay, it's a roll of the dice my friend. If only things were as simple and as "long term" as some of y'all think. I just take it one day at a time, as hard as it is sometimes to do so.
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I fully accepted the possibility of furlough from the legacy job. Especially since I have already been furloughed three times in my career including allegiant. Im a minimum of two years away from feeling generally safe from furlough. But that’s just a feeling. Truth is we are all at risk it’s just a measure of how much.
I also did not intend to brag. My intent is to be motivational and encouraging.
I also did not intend to brag. My intent is to be motivational and encouraging.
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