Contract negotiations
01-13-2023, 04:21 AM
#1171
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: pilot
Posts: 584
Do you need to see notes from a strategy meeting?
Would a video on Facebook make it real?
just asking. Cause sometimes it really is as simple as observing what’s actually happening.
my observation yields two conclusions.
AR thinks he can shrink the airline into a contract he wants.
MG knows he can build a highly profitable airline with 50 airplanes, 500 pilots and the current contract. Throw in a little revenue from Airbus leases to allegiants cousin in Mexico and there’s plenty of cash for hotels and race cars.
They are working towards the same goal. Only one is aware.
01-13-2023, 06:35 AM
#1172
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,987
If you walk into a room and observe a man holding an empty gas can, you smell gasoline and he’s holding a match is it really necessary for someone to tell you they are burning down the place?
Do you need to see notes from a strategy meeting?
Would a video on Facebook make it real?
just asking. Cause sometimes it really is as simple as observing what’s actually happening.
my observation yields two conclusions.
AR thinks he can shrink the airline into a contract he wants.
MG knows he can build a highly profitable airline with 50 airplanes, 500 pilots and the current contract. Throw in a little revenue from Airbus leases to allegiants cousin in Mexico and there’s plenty of cash for hotels and race cars.
They are working towards the same goal. Only one is aware.
Do you need to see notes from a strategy meeting?
Would a video on Facebook make it real?
just asking. Cause sometimes it really is as simple as observing what’s actually happening.
my observation yields two conclusions.
AR thinks he can shrink the airline into a contract he wants.
MG knows he can build a highly profitable airline with 50 airplanes, 500 pilots and the current contract. Throw in a little revenue from Airbus leases to allegiants cousin in Mexico and there’s plenty of cash for hotels and race cars.
They are working towards the same goal. Only one is aware.
01-13-2023, 06:38 AM
#1173
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 668
If you walk into a room and observe a man holding an empty gas can, you smell gasoline and he’s holding a match is it really necessary for someone to tell you they are burning down the place?
Do you need to see notes from a strategy meeting?
Would a video on Facebook make it real?
just asking. Cause sometimes it really is as simple as observing what’s actually happening.
my observation yields two conclusions.
AR thinks he can shrink the airline into a contract he wants.
MG knows he can build a highly profitable airline with 50 airplanes, 500 pilots and the current contract. Throw in a little revenue from Airbus leases to allegiants cousin in Mexico and there’s plenty of cash for hotels and race cars.
They are working towards the same goal. Only one is aware.
Do you need to see notes from a strategy meeting?
Would a video on Facebook make it real?
just asking. Cause sometimes it really is as simple as observing what’s actually happening.
my observation yields two conclusions.
AR thinks he can shrink the airline into a contract he wants.
MG knows he can build a highly profitable airline with 50 airplanes, 500 pilots and the current contract. Throw in a little revenue from Airbus leases to allegiants cousin in Mexico and there’s plenty of cash for hotels and race cars.
They are working towards the same goal. Only one is aware.
01-13-2023, 06:40 AM
#1174
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 668
In other news, I heard from some friends that the mediator that's been assigned, Eva Durham used to be a labor hating VP at ASA who used to beat the FAs up. Allegedly she ruled that department by fear and intimidation right up until she was asked to leave. Definitely not going to be a friend of labor in these negotiations. Maury couldn't have paid more for a better choice.
01-13-2023, 06:40 AM
#1175
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,987
In other news, I heard from some friends that the mediator that's been assigned, Eva Durham used to be a labor hating VP at ASA who used to beat the FAs up. Allegedly she ruled that department by fear and intimidation right up until she was asked to leave. Definitely not going to be a friend of labor in these negotiations. Maury couldn't have paid more for a better choice.
01-13-2023, 08:05 AM
#1176
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 213
In other news, I heard from some friends that the mediator that's been assigned, Eva Durham used to be a labor hating VP at ASA who used to beat the FAs up. Allegedly she ruled that department by fear and intimidation right up until she was asked to leave. Definitely not going to be a friend of labor in these negotiations. Maury couldn't have paid more for a better choice.
01-13-2023, 08:31 AM
#1177
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,987
01-13-2023, 08:46 AM
#1178
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 668
Or at least that’s what we will be told. This looks like a huge L for the union. Feels like MG is playing chess and we are playing checkers. Curious to see what AR has to say about it.
Look at the resumes of the other mediators, it seriously looks like MG handpicked the exact mediator he wanted.
01-13-2023, 06:05 PM
#1179
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
VFN has no impact on contract. Delta is getting ready to vote on a new contract and those pilots were picking up green slips the entire time.
Don’t think they had an exodus either. Pretty sure they can fill new hire classes easily.
You need to pay closer attention to what’s really going on.
Don’t think they had an exodus either. Pretty sure they can fill new hire classes easily.
You need to pay closer attention to what’s really going on.
01-13-2023, 09:24 PM
#1180
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Captain for Skyhawks
Posts: 482
VFN has no impact on contract. Delta is getting ready to vote on a new contract and those pilots were picking up green slips the entire time.
Don’t think they had an exodus either. Pretty sure they can fill new hire classes easily.
You need to pay closer attention to what’s really going on.
Don’t think they had an exodus either. Pretty sure they can fill new hire classes easily.
You need to pay closer attention to what’s really going on.
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